Iv double crit walker legs before. Unless they nerfed it.

For such a hard quest to get a lackluster weapon, I agree. By hard, I mean long and annoying.

It's just a marketing trick. They use excuses to nerf old powerful weapons to make the 'new' weapons from the next DLC look more powerful. They make old stuff into shit so you buy the new stuff. Planned obsolesence again and again!

I like the gun it's super fun but I've killed myself more times with the ricochet than I've even killed something else hell I don't think I've ever killed an enemy with ricochet rounds while I've lost count of the times I've seen "misadventure" on my death screen

HAha, it's funny. The bouncing laser has only worked for me since I've gotten it. The first time I crispified, de-atomized, or whatever term is appropriate, myself in the process of trying to nuke the bond brothers. The second time, I missed a stormcaller only to have the shot ricochet three time and anally dissect him (tap the ass from behind). I was fun, at first I though it was lag.

It's just a burst damage weapon like Gjallarhorn used to be. Black Spindle will do more sustained damage. If you need a lot of damage in about 2 seconds, use the Sleeper. If you need a lot of damage over a while, use the Spindle.

It's the new touch of malice for kings fall cuz it two shots the ogres

What if they had different modes? Here. Three modes to pick from, tell me how they sound to you. Mode 1, long range high power. Can be fired from the hip but your best bet bet is aim and fire, works mostly the way it does now. Only instead of bounce rounds it creates a one meter area of effect around the beam, so firing it into a group of charging aggs will take down most of them. Mode 2, continuous beam. Think of it as a HMG with skip rounds and armor piercing plus no recoil... Suppose balance this by making it slightly less dps than the standard HMG, fires a steady laser that will reflect multiple times... Also if you hit your self with a reflection, you are effed... Would be fun to have a strike where there are crystals in the walls and ceilings so you can turn them into disco balls of death and destruction. Mode 3 uses a targeting computer. Kinda a semicircle shaped scope instead of the normal one. Scans the evironment infront of you quires a targeting solution. Perhaps 7 to 10 targets, if less than the set number of targets it evaluates the strongest enemies and targets them for multiple impacts. The targeting computer is slooooow which means while it is possible to use it in crucible, you'd still be better off using an rpg as to multikill with this you'll have to 1, get multiple targets together at the same place and same time, 2, maintain clear line of sight with your targets, 3, be able to conceal your self while target acquisition is taking place. If someone moves out of targeting frame you lose them as an available target. So using it in pvp would be very, very, situational, and only really attractive because it can potentially hit targets that are outside of explosion range of the rpg. I think this makes the weapon a lot more fun and variable in application while not making it too dificult to balance because it's applications ultimately not completely different form other existing weapon archetypes. The thing you would do with this you could also do with a machine gun or a launcher.

If you're familiar with Borderlands The Presequel there is a character, Athena, who has a skill that turns her shield into a pinball capable of deflecting and hitting up to four nearby targets. The way they balanced it was that it did 33% less damage with each new target. But the tracking was automatic. This is exactly how Sleeper Simulant should function: Auto tracking with each deflection up to four targets in proximity, and 33% damage reduction against each new target.

It needs more control over the ricochet! So far after the initial shot there is no way of controlling where the shot bounces. Same goes kind of for hardlight IMO ...

I love the idea of Fusion Cannons as a regular heavy weapon type. Get on that, Bungie!

Ya the reflected shots suck. It needs to be some where in between how it is now and Gaige's reflect from Borderlands 2 :3

Good post.

Cool idea, SS is one of my fav exotics too, but only really useful to drop huge dps on single targets, the beams at least reflecting toward neaby enemies would be cool.