[quote]I'm not saying i want a Thorn like clusterf**k back in Year 2, i just think Exotics are not only too weak, but also too boring.[/quote] This sentiment is basically why we have the problem in the first place. We had lots of interesting stuff that was fun to use, but the constant stream of whinging about stuff needing to be nerfed has led to an extremely bland arsenal all around. Why make stand-out gear if people are just going to whine incessantly about it? The community has simply received what it asked for.

A lot of the exotic armor is pretty blah. Finding myself infusing them into my legendaries quite a bit now. Except the Armamentrium. Me looooooooove the Armamentarium.

"OP" only matters in PvP, so simple fix would be make the exotic weapons truly special but don't allow them in PvP. Easy. Now you can bring back the glory of all the nerfed and not brought to Y2 guns everyone loved.

For me exotics that lack exotic feeling are : Boolean Gemini, Fabian Strategy First Curse, No Time to Explain, The worst case is Boolean Gemini it barely has any purpose. Fabian Strategy just do not work as expected, you can take advantage of No Time to Explain but very specific. Do not feel any special neither Thunderlord & Super Good Advice because everybody just use Quill terminus, they should have more amo or super fast reload to compete and justify the exotic slot over terminus.

eyy yo bungo what's good let's get rid of the best exotics in the game oh yeah it'll go over so well bye bye Gjallarhorn Thorn Ice Breaker good riddance lmao why are the players all red and angry ayy yo guys chill out it's just a prank here's Last Word woah bro we screwed up it's cool just give them a "new" and "innovative" strike eyy yo sounds gucci lmao

Well, we had a great thing going in year one but people whined so incessantly that Bungie had to do something. Exotics felt very powerful in year one but all the good ones have been left behind.

There are a bunch of exotics that only collect dust in vaults because unless you are looking to just kid around and try something different, they don't have the necessary power to compete or do well in PvP or PvE. That shouldn't be the case. All exotics should be serious contenders and be able to be brought up in light level (I'm talking to you Thorn, Vex, Necro, Gjally, Ice Breaker, Pocket Infinity). Also all exotic primaries should have a burn on them. It would be another way to separate them (at least the primaries) from legendaries that are just as good. Some weapons that are currently lacking include (in no particular order). Thorn. It needs to have more burn, that's it whole thing. Even at the expense of dropping impact, Thorn needs to have a longer more powerful burn again. Fabian Strategy. Interesting concept the last time it was changed, but it doesn't warrant an exotic slot. Maybe more stability and a larger magazine would do it. Hard Light. It doesn't have the stability it says it has, maybe due to that ridiculous shaking that occurs while firing it. The 4th Horseman. Does anyone use this thing? I honestly can't recall the last time I was killed with it. Exotic trash, nothing more and I have no idea what to do about it other than increasing range. Pocket Infinity. Even the fusion rifle buff couldn't help this thing. Not enough stability or infinity to justify using it. Damn shame really. Dreg's Promise. Another dust collector. Sidearms sadly have no place in PvE, they just aren't powerful enough, and in PvP this is nothing more than a dime store novelty item. Super Good Advice. Super bad since day 1, even on a solar burn Nightfall. Yeah it's great getting rounds back, but how about reliably being able to put them where we aim them. Desperately needs a stability boost.

Bungie needs to remove exotics from crucible, and remove 3 of coins. Bungie made exotics in y1 have a sence of value to lets see how fast you can collect as many as you can. Not only did they remove the gole to obtain them that gave that sense of value. They turned them into a pointless objective by adding 3 of coins to justify their messed up RNG. [b]It's called pure laziness[/b] knowing they could and do not have any excuse not to be able to afford on adding content which they should of had done in the first place. Like adding more quest, bounties or whatever to obtain them. Not this bullshit running through crucible and stupid shit on the planet's they have been having everyone doing. Exotics should have their own Mission with a story behind it. Leaving the gamer having more motivation to want to play this game and stopping this bullshit running backwards through shit everyone has done thousands of time. Bungie needs to put our money where there mouth seems to run on a live stream or interviews and actually give us or money's worth. Most of all. If Bungie is going to make exotics, then make exotics work like y1 did in every event on both PvP and PvE...

Literally none of the TTK exotics that came out have been that fun to use. There are a couple "good" exotics, but nothing that another weapon couldn't do. What I'm trying to say is that none of the TTK exotics are a part the meta.

Exotics aren't exotic because the answer to making them unique is something Bungie ignored feedback from community on. Like 99% of everything else. 😉

What about supercell? Pretty sure the fact that it is the only primary with elemental damage is enough to make it worth being exotic, let alone the fact that it charges your super and refills its own ammo when you get double kills. Probably one of the best weapons in the game right now.

They nailed Telesto though

Totally aggre examples are like Boolean Gemini, hereafter, zen meteor, jade rabbit, fabian strategy, ace of spades, hard light, red death, no time to explain, no land beyond, universal remote, and dreg's promise

All in the name of pvp balance. Ive been saying this for months... Good post!

I think, they do.