Seriously, look at the facts.
Melee: does 122 on hit, but 199 total with viking funeral + touch of flame. That'll one hit everything but max armour titans. Not to mention warlocks have the best melee range in the game, as well as being granted flameshield on HIT rather than kill (only class in the game to get this), which basically gives them an extra 100 HP for 15 seconds.
Super: allows you to spam grenades and melees for 10ish seconds, where each melee is a guaranteed one hit kill. Also have the option of radiant skin, allowing you to tank a high impact sniper headshot (sunbreaker pre nerf) or fireborn, allowing you to self revive because you're bad and died in the first place.
Grenades: firebolts. The best grenades in the game, without exception. Run Viking funeral + touch of flame and these do 170 damage through burns, as well as keeping a player from recovering for 15 seconds. 170 damage means whoever gets tagged is one shot from any primary damage for 15+ seconds. This is simply op. Not to mention their ability to tag 3 targets in one grenade as well as the auto target feature of the grenade. That'll nearly wipe a whole team in skirmish.
This class just needs to have its burn reduced so at the least it can't one shot melee people and watch them burn to death.
If you say "they have to run Viking funeral and touch of flame to make it op so its fine because they sacrifice perks", you're being stupid. every subclass has a "Meta" set of perks but none are as good as sunsingers.
If you say look at the sunsingers average kd on guardian gg its barely 1.0, but other classes are higher than that, its just because some players really do suck. It still means the subclass is the best in the game.
Skip to 5:45
https://youtu.be/8ERg2vTtKio
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Maybe try playing as a Sunsinger
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This post is STILL here?! I first saw this weeks ago!
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My grandmas op
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Jesus sense WHEN have sunsingers been op?
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Sun singers are fine in 6v6 but can become problematic en masse. I'd certainly lean them more towards support abilities in Destiny 2, as opposed to the tank/striker role they currently have.
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1 Respuesta[quote]If your opinion is different from mine, you're ignorant.[/quote] Fixed it for you.
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1 RespuestaSo many of the stats are wrong with this post lol it's like you are trying to sound like an idiot. Sunsinger isn't op. You all need to understand this.
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Didn't want to read the whole thing. But the ironic part is, you said every melee is a guarantee one shot. Its not, only the first charge. Talk about ignorance. [spoiler]well, if you have Claw of Ahamkara, then there's an exception.[/spoiler]
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Editado por RoflBiscuit: 3/3/2016 7:46:28 AMLeave the Jesus class alone. We are just simply warlocks trying to make others feel the bern. Oh hey politics and religion in the same sentence being used in a jokingly manner. On a more serious note: Leave the warlocks alone.
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3 RespuestasMelee does 199 damage with max burn... Autistic, Short Bus, or Huntard?
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TL:DR [quote]Buff fusion rifles, shotguns OP[/quote]
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Few things: 1) gunslingers have longest melee range, no exceptions 2) their super melee one shots WHILE CHARGED not all the time 3) Incendiary grenade does 170 on a direct blast while burning targets to death, being a garunteed kill on full health targets without factoring in max armour striker titans or the armour perks (since I havent bothered with pvp since taken king). I wont argue they need some serious retuning but you cant say all the facts about them when half are technically wrong. Would also like to add if sunsingers/stormcallers are gettinf nerfed (seems the popular opinion) then gunslingers/nightstalkers will definately need the nerf treatment, since golden gun has and always will be a bit broken and the aim assist on shadow shot/throwing knives is just rediculous.
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8 RespuestasLol it's funny how when you kids die by a Sunsinger, that immediately makes it overpowered. You're sad
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3 RespuestasI am so tired of all the incessant bitching on these forums. Never an interesting topic. Nerf this, nerf that. "This subclass is too op!" NO SUBCLASS IS OP. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. Sunsinger has good grenades and melee, but is easy to take out. Especially if they try to res. Now please, can we have ONE DAY WITHOUT COMPLAINING?
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Only time sunsinger op is when there's 3 on one team same with every other class, I rather play three sunsingers than three strikers TBH, they are faster they can all use jug and shotty, their super beats every super, and when all are running flashbangs it's over... It's just over
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Nah dawg you just are used to playing pvp in a non tactical way (aka cod), sunsinger has been epitome of balance since release, the key to beating them is to disengage, get them to chase, than re engage with STRONG weapons like shotgun or sniper, works with all the burns and even radiance. Honestly, as a hunter I am giddy with joy whenever I see sunsingers on the other team, you just have to be patient, sunsingers are made for defeating the rush oriented non patient spamming ass player.
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Or, maybe, I just don't give a sh1t.
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Ha this guy hating on the singers wait for you to someday play against my woidwaker warlock and my blink and 2x tracking scattered grenades haha you will rage quit I don't doubt it. X>]
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Editado por Justaknife35: 3/3/2016 12:58:16 AMI don't understand these people... Sunsinger was never in a sense "OP" and now suddenly it's OP? It's just people looking for a new fight to pick... Sunsinger is NOT OP, was never OP in Y1, and received no major buffs at all so why is it suddenly OP? Same with weapons. Some people don't understand the difference between over powered and over used....
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Lots of ignorant people on these forums. It's cause they suck XD
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What's the point of the video you linked? He got MAYBE four kills with radiance, and he even killed a self rez with the flash with a noscope. That doesn't exactly scream OP to me when I can get twice as many kills with stormtrance. And I'm not even that good.
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199? Quit making up numbers. Pls they aren't hard to kill even with super.
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Stop hating on warlocks beacus you suck if you play smart you wont die and as a warlock i do agree that we have the best melee but definitly not grenades. Frist of all hunters can just throw a smoke at u basically a grenade and then a vortex grenade which will destroy you and anybody else trapped in the combo. So stop whining!
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4 RespuestasI never get 1 hit by sunsinger melee I'm not a titan
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I'm sorry but did you really just crap on the super it's garbage