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Editado por TheDoubleOh:
1/5/2016 1:01:20 AM
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Let's settle the "1000 yrd aim assist" debate
First off I'm not crying about the sniper at all but I see all these people crying about the 1k's aim assist and how it's a crutch. Is the gun overused? Absolutely but in reality when it comes to aim assist it's in the middle of the pack, so let's take a look at where it stands compared to everything else in order from most to least aim assist.
1.) Weylorans March- 79 aim assist
2.)Hereafter- 75 aim assist
3.)Defiance of Yasmin- 69 aim assist
4.)Antimony XVI- 69 aim assist
5.)shadow of veils- 69 aim assist
6.)Tamar D- 65 aim assist
7.)The supremecy- 63 aim assist
8.)eye of sol- 61 aim assist
9.)Aoife Rua D- 60 aim assist
10.)Prudence II-59 aim assist
11.)1000 yard stare- 56 aim assist
12.)patience and time- 55 aim assist
13.)glass promontory-54 aim assist
14.)longbow synthesis- 54 aim assist
15.)still piercer- 51 aim assist
That's the top 15 snipers when it comes to AA, so as you can see the aim assist is not low but it is not that high compared to some other snipers, so there is no such thing as an aim assist "crutch" with this weapon. It's just over used which is why it pisses so many people off.
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One flaw. [spoiler]Most of those snipers can't rez snipe.[/spoiler]
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I get more snipes per crucible with my stillpiercer than the 1KYS.
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Check out my benevolence on hunter
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12 RespuestasEditado por Chubbums: 1/10/2016 6:42:36 AMIf you use a high aim assist sniper exclusively, sorry to say but you're actually not that good at sniping. :3 The guys running ambush on Gozen's and Spears are the True pro's of Destiny. Sadly those snipes are gone and only Eirenne could be considered a skilled sniper. Get mad, disagree, whatever fact is you can't pull the shit you pull off without those high AA guns because you're not as skilled as you thought you were, since the guns does most of the work for you. Bring the salt please.
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For the people yelling how snipers take to skill, praedyths has one of the lowest aim assit in the game, same with effrideets, year one sniping took skull right? They changed snipers and may kick and such heavier sooo
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11 RespuestasI believe the problem with high impact snipers is the fast rate of fire,if you miss that headshot you should be punished with a slow fire rate you should not be able to 2 shot someone to the body before they can react to the first shot. High impact snipers should be like the no land beyond and reward precision.
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The 1k yard on my warlock says otherwise
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12 RespuestasHere's how to settle it, no one complained about LDR, benevolence, shadow of veils, or longbow synth in y1 when they had more AA and 2 of them could be rerolled with max AA perks. Now everyone complains about 1k stare when it is far worse than those snipers. Why? Because they nerfed shotguns to the ground.
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This will help many guardians
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5 Respuestas[quote]no one complained about LDR, benevolence, shadow of veils, or longbow synth in y1 when they had more AA and 2 of them could be rerolled with max AA perks.[/quote] So why does everyone complain about the 1000 yard stare?? [b]BECAUSE ITS OVERUSED AND EASY TO GET[/b] and also because theres hardly any other snipers which can snipe on res. People including myself complain about the MIDA but not because its an OP gun ( its a good gun) but because its completely overused.
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2 RespuestasI just don't get it... Magically everyone is a beast at sniping and they all use 1000 Yard Stare. It just doesn't add up. Not only that, this is the exact same argument when people defended TLW pre-range-nerf. "It's range is so low." Yet, it could, when ADS'ing, snipe across the map.
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Ldr 5001 should be up there somewhere
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Inspect my 1k yard stares which is better One on Hunter 2nd on titan
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Smells like hot fish in here. Let's air out this room boys
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Du fuk all you crying about snipers for? Back in my good old days I would catch them sniper bullets with my teeth! Gosh damn if I still remember correctly the aim assist in my teeth is 1000, where do you guys think bungie got the name for the sniper....
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People also don't take into consideration what snipers can Rez snipe and snipe supers.. Give more options.. And the 1kys won't be as much used.. I prefer mine with ambush over shortgaze .. I also use Eireen from time to time but it's got a heavy feel to it and doesn't move as smooth as a 1kys.. Idk I don't really see a problem with snipers that much..
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Editado por PaulEBluebird: 1/10/2016 8:25:48 PMMost people defending snipers are the ones camped up the back not capping zones in IB or control, sat there trying to get multiple head shots for a montage to prove they are good players. Snipers are the new shoguns, the weapon of choice for CQC. Odd really that if a shotgun kills at range everyone moans like crazy but if the longest range guns in the game are now also the best CQC guns in the game kills on a regular basis from a few feet away and people call it skilled! Ok, maybe it does take a bit of skill to pull of constant close quarters head shots with a sniper, I'll agree with that, but right now sniping is unbalanced, because the other guns are not worth using for the most. I don't mind being killed by someone that out snipped me, or a skilled attacking sniper but if sniping takes skill how come virtually everyone can do it! I'm not very good at it so I normally get beaten anyway, but I still get more kills using a sniper than a Shotty these days! I don't think snipers need to change, maybe a little more flinch but most primaries need a buff. Time to kill on most primaries is boringly slow. As bungie said 'if everyone is using the same gun something is wrong!' So something must be wrong right?
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9 RespuestasI prefer the Calcutta-LR2
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8 RespuestasEditado por SmashvilleViking: 1/10/2016 6:14:11 AMI personally don't care what you use... But, the last 10 montages I have seen are people with 1kys.... And, how many of those are y2?
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"Let's settle the debate" Proceeds to show a partial, one sided sniper AA scale... How bout: Remove all yr1. Remove all exotic. Remove all unavailable (weylorans March hasn't been sold through IB so it's not an option for everyone.) Include impact ratings. Compare available scopes and AA 1KYS rises to the top very quickly
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Ironically, before my post, this thread had 417 comments. Thats the headshot damage of 1k stare
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Its not the aim assist. Its relatively lower aim assist is part of what the real problem is, which is poor hitscan and lag compensation.
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2 RespuestasI think bolt-action could solve problems for the higher impact snipers. But that would also destroy their PVE capabilities.
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1 RespuestaYour missing the no land beyond
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Meh.. Eirene is better.
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How about they add MORE flinching and some sway since it's a sniper and all games that have sniper have sway. Implement something where the guardian has to hold their breath to shoot steadily. No aim assist on any snipers either. Also, no more res sniping.
