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Editado por Schruef: 11/9/2015 9:01:20 PM
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I know why people are bored, and it's Bungie's fault.

Around this last week, or the week before, people (including me) are feeling bored of Destiny. But if you had this content back on 2014, no one would be done yet. I know why. People aren't rewarded for their efforts anymore. They feel robbed, and this is even worse than VoG grinding days. This is because 1: Reward drops are infrequent. 2: The rewards you can get usually suck 3: Other things are just better 4: Bungie hasn't released [u]half[/u] the TTK exotics in the database. In the last raid I did, hard mode oryx, I got [b]two[/b] items of value. A ghost shell and a mark. From Warpriest? Nothing. From golg? Nothing. Granted I did the normal raid first (which I got nothing but a fusion rifle from), is this acceptable? After beating one of the hardest bosses in the game, should I (or anyone) get a fusion rifle that's absolutely terrible anyway, or receive [i]nothing[/i]? No. But it doesn't even matter, anyway! Because most of the raid weapons are bad. Think about it. Would you rather use the raid sniper, or a gunsmith sniper with LITC? Who here, in this thread, feels the desire to own all the raid weapons? Is there a certain one (Fatebringer) that the entire community wants? Do people make [url=fatebringer.com]websites[/url] in devotion to the raid handcannon (which I don't even know the name of. It's that's forgettable)? Do people scream in excitement to get Telesto, Hereafter, etc., jumping up and down, yelling in anticipation to use this new masterpiece of a gun? No! In fact, the weapons that most people are using to be successful are [b]stock. [/b] Seriously? Why raid? To get ToM which has no use outside of the raid? Back in VoG and Crota days, I [b]had[/b] to have all the raid weapons. The rare ones, especially. People would walk around in the tower and gawk at my gear. My vex mythoclast proudly mounted on my shoulders, I walked to Xander as crowds followed me. Then it went downhill. Vex mythoclast > ToM >>>>>> necrochasm Who the [i]-blam!-[/i] wants necrochasm? Some people just wanted to collect it. In fact, that was the only reason to have it. The high end weapons got worse and worse until they were outclassed by everything else. I'd like to see a show of hands! Who grinded through PoE a million times to get [i]Wolvesbane?[/i] *counts 0 hands* And here's why collecting just left destiny entirely: We can't even [b]get[/b] half the exotics. The other half are time gated. Now I can't tell you why. The haters out there will tell you it's to increase longevity. Maybe it's technicalities. I don't know, but it's stupid and it's turning everyone away from collecting exotics. Here's what needs to be done: •Raid weapons need to be [b]good[/b] again. Something worth it. •Raid drops need to be increased. I don't even care what you give me! I'd be happy getting [i]something[/i] besides moldering shards and a black wax idol. •Stop time-gating exotics •Give us the database exotics or take them out Luke, you're not giving people more choices, you're just making them feel like they wasted their time. [spoiler]I'll add more to this post later. More points to be made.[/spoiler] Edit: There is [b]tons[/b] of content with TTK, but no incentive, mostly.
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  • I love my smite. It's an amazing pulse.

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    • Very true about many things. Heck, even Word of Crota hand cannon got hated on but at least was powerful enough to be sought out. Wtf? I bet 90% of legendary drops get dismantled to marks, and for what? Not much...

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    • I want to see custom weapons forging. We hard a lot about the omolon, Hakke and Suros foundries but no story line to go with them. It would be cool to replace the seemingly useless factions. Make the representative of a weapons foundry with home world's to explore. Missions to complete and real weapons parts to find with the chance to go and forge a custom weapon. I mean, people like to think that aside from skill, they have a uniquely customized charactor.

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    • I don't understand the mentality with this expansion. We cried and clamored on the forums for months that RNG in the raids was awful. In comes TDB and players are 32 in a week with 3 of the same character. (Fine by me!) Then comes in HoW and now we don't have to rely on RNG anymore. (Yay!) Oh and we can ascend whatever we want to max level. (Double yay!) So what the hell happened? Why is it back to year 1 all over again? I like the game and I enjoy playing when I'm rewarded for the challenges I just overcame. As part of the forever 29 brigade I'm a little upset about coming so far forward with the beginning and middle game just to be disappointed with the end game.

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    • When I saw this post I thought, here we go, another salty guardian having a cry about something. But after reading all the way through.... You're actually right. Like 100% on the money. They have taken the excitement out of grinding for gear, which, once the story is finished, is all there is to do....

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    • [quote]Luke, you're not giving people more choices, you're just making them feel like they wasted their time.[/quote] Nail on the head.

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    • Editado por CFUX: 11/9/2015 7:02:18 PM
      Tbh I only play because my closest friends still painstakingly come back for the grind. The hope that we will get that gun we haven't gotten yet. I don't know what the hell we will use it for. I'm not good at crucible and trials is something I realized I just don't have the skill for. So that's leaves the kf hm. Beaten it twice and can't really say the rewards makes me want to comeback for more. So in the end my friends and teammates I know irl is why I'm still here. I'm not jonesing for a fix like I use to. It is what it is.

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    • I'm not with this post to be honest. I still have quite a few quests, but that's most likely because I haven't had as much time to play as I did in year 1. However I will say this. I play for fun, if I enjoy the game I keep playing. I have OCD tendencies and can at times be a hoarder. I've kept weapons from Year 1 that I have no actual intention of using (cept the crucible weapons, Give/Take Equation forever) I love the Kings Fall Raid, it gave me all the same feelings I got from playing Vault, though I do believe you need everyone on the same page much more than you did with Vault. I only just picked up my ToM although I have had the opportunity to do so for weeks now. I love the raid scout rifle, raid sniper and raid Heavy machine gun. Those are my jam in Kings Fall, with a few additions from Bad Juju and Tread Upon Stars. However I only use the sniper and HMG outside of Kings fall when doing story missions. Same with Vault, I only used raid weapons in the vault and then when there was a nightfall burn. I didn't think Fatebringer was the be all and end all of the entire game, but that's just personal preference. I've taken at least 7 of my clan members through Lost to Light to pick up their Spindles. I swear that mission is sometimes harder than hard Oryx. The elation that you get from completing it though.... so good. I like to shop around, when I find the gun that works best for me, it doesn't leave my characters inventory, though it will be swapped out for fun with other guns. In the first year I thought my Crusader VI was, as Shax would say, AMAZING! And now the weapon count is so much higher I'm still testing things out I've had for a while or getting shot consistently by guns which make me say "I really need to get that thing". I don't miss Gjallarhorn though still keep it for the lols. Never used Ice Breaker except on Aetheon. In fact the only gun I lament not having right now is mida. But I do understand the first year was sooooo broken. I appreciate all exotics now are situational. I'm a fusion rifle fan, but think Telesto is terrible, but still see where it could be awesome. I guess what I'm saying at the end of all this random rant is. I'm enjoying this expansion immensely, but I'm also taking the time to do that and did not destroy all missions within the first week. You reap what you sow.

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      • No you are bored because you prolly have over 500 hours into the game. I'm get bored and wanna move on after 500 hours with the same chick...

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      • Completed hard mode oryx totems 318 fusion rifle infused into my blac spindle War priest 315 harrowed machine gun golgoroth 311 boots that I'll use to infuse my Titan boots sisters 315 shotgun crota got a 319 pulse rifle So I'm not sure about your drops there bud but mine are and have always been good how about you stop doing the normal raid I did and those were my drops

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        • I have done 2 normal kings fall. I have had 6 weapons drop and 3 ghosts. No marks or armor.

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        • i mean, is it really that much different than the old raids? You guys act like the reward system has changed greatly but if anything i think is has gotten better! I have yet to go through a run on HM oryx and not get AT LEAST 1 item to drop, usually at least 2 or 3 items. sure they may not be better than items I have but at least i can use them to infuse other weapons. As for the other raids, Im a day one player, and I recall going through CE or VoG sometimes and literally getting NOTHING but materials...

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          • Destiny is getting seriously boring now because we've ran out of content to play that "feels new." It's the same problem Destiny has had since vanilla launched last year, there is STILL not enough content & the only content left is non-soloable stuff that you gotta do with a Fireteam, which IMO really sux!!!

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          • It was strange and funny at first...but then time elapsed...and it dawned on me that every year wil be like this for ten years lol Bungie,its not funny anymore.On xbox I am a year one player.I bought every DLC.Now the more you remain silent,the more I am leaning towards leaving.Many will follow.

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            • Editado por OwlRNothing: 11/9/2015 7:01:18 PM
              No, its your fault. Get off the couch. Go outside. Play something else. Geez. You kids are all sheep. If ppl started saying it was a red cow's fault, every little snot on here would start blaming the red cow.

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              • I took a break for a while, and to be honest, I haven't had any urge to come back. I think TTK did a lot of things right, but the weapons are just dull. The exotics are mainly crap. Half the exotics are missing. The bounties now feel pointless, thanks to no exotic quests dropping and they give you very little faction rep. The raid just isn't doing it for me. It feels very meh, nothing special or exciting about it. Not even a worthwhile weapon worth toughing it out for.

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              • Editado por LoanLizard: 11/9/2015 6:56:35 PM
                When I see the stories of people getting no rewards, I get really sad. I am one of those people, too. Then there are the people that say "Well bud, every time I raid I get a 320 weapon and a 320 armor piece.." Then the people saying that VoG and Crota's End had worse reward systems. Wat? CE/VoG - possible to get no drops but likely that you will get some (based off of EVERYBODY I have played with and their rewards). King's Fall - likely that you will get no rewards through the whole raid. Oryx is guaranteed to drop something on hard mode, but that something can be anything from 310 hand cannons to 320 class items.

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              • I dunno, I've done the raid through Deathsingers twice and Oryx once, all I got was a really shitty Hand Canon and a 300 Light Ghost shell with Strength/Discipline (Infusion Material) And a pair of 302 Gauntlets. It's just not worth to find a team.

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                • Editado por El Rainmaker: 11/9/2015 4:34:02 PM
                  ill be playing FO4 tomorrow (:

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                  • Why I am bored of Destiny: I played it a lot for a year and a few months. Now I'm working through my backlog and playing Halo for pvp (feels nice to play a shooter again, where everyone is on equal footing). Didn't even participate in Trials dispite going to the lighthouse numerous of times in Y1. It's good to be on a break :)

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                  • Destiny's rewards are shit... I've been in first place in a crucible match and received hawkmoon and I've been in last place and receive and ice breaker.... This is the very reason why I don't do raids often, or do the nightfall or crucible (if I play crucible it's for red spectre or a quest). I've only gotten 1 exotic from [i][u][b]5[/b][/u][/i] nightfalls! Are you -blam!-ing kidding me?! If it's gonna drop legendary loot that I'll probably dismantle then at least drop good loot that I can infuse or something don't drop a 275 weapon or amor piece when I'm level 297 and will immediately dismantle it for the marks! Three of coins are worthless too. They rarely drop engrams unless you stack all the damn coins that you bought! Even then they usually drop something that you already have so it's useless unless you get a 300+ weapon or armor! Bungie needs to fix this shit because fallout 4 is coming and Destiny is getting some real competition this year... But we all know they won't do shit and probably make a new micro-transaction or even a $60 dlc! I can imagine it now... Bungie Idea Man: "Wouldn't it be funny if we make players buy a $60 dlc even tho they paid $80 for the other 3?" Bungie CEO: "That's a stupid idea Jim! .....I like it!"

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                    • Editado por WorkadayLemur72: 11/9/2015 6:26:15 AM
                      Don't get me wrong, i agree with all your points, but, what i don't understand about the increasing amount of post like this in the forums is, why people are feeling like this now? What took them so long to realize this about Destiny? To me, this game have always had those problems that you have mentioned and more. Each released DLC have fell short of expectation, RNG has always been a problem due to, lack of or excess of rewards. PvP, even after countless updates, was and is still a mess. Map rotation has always been crap in pvp, strike rotation has always been crap too. The only thing that puts TTK in a whole new level of annoyance, is the fact that they are holding A LOT of already shown content, for no particular reason, behind time gates. Still, during year 1, people went and played the hell out of this game(myself included). People did the same strikes countless times. They did the raids countless times. There are people with over 100 completions on each yr1 raid for crying out loud. They have kept playing the same broke PvP modes time and time again. My question is this: why this community were willing to put up to all that that you have mentioned in your post during the duration of yr1 and now they seem to be fed up with it? Destiny has always been this messy so.....why now? what changed? I honestly would like to know.

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                      • Editado por Romney57: 11/9/2015 6:20:58 PM
                        It's far too late for that I'm off, the game is broken, other parts lag too much, the employees are taking the piss and fanboy comments are proof this has turned into a nasty -blam!-ing waste of my time and Bungie has turned into a corporate whore to money grubbing Activision !!!

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                      • 100% agree sick of paying for a full game destiny,dark below, how, and ttk and to have all my year one exotics in vault and can't blaming use them apart from crucible where light level doesn't matter apart from trials and iron banner and the ones that did come to ttk guess what? You have to do them up all over again is that fun for anyone? no! It's not it sucks and y the blam didn't all exotics come over into year 2 y isn't there a year 2 dragons breath was dragons breath a must have in crota raid?? No it was the galleyhorn!! I myself believe [b]no[/b] exotics should be left behind. as a thank you for playing through year one from bungie they should have automatically put all exotics that you have from year one Into year 2 at a light of 300 that still leaves 20 light to grind for but gives us a head start over the newbies. [b]Question[/b] to everyone if you have to grind for all your exotics again and do them up again when you get the next game in about 11 months would you buy it and do it and love it or would you be like me and just be like f it to much time and work for something I already had cant be bothered I quit ?

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                      • Bungie doesn't listen to their fans and that's what killed the game

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                      • The time-gating is a major "I'm done" issue. I've enjoyed the collecting aspect since the beginning, but the "drop everything, put your life on hold" because Black Spindle is up tonight, has been a deal breaker. I'm obligated to play at Bungie's time-mercy AND coordinate my friends to help? (I'm just not talented enough to solo it.) Destiny has always been anti-solo play (intentionally, so while I disagree, I understand), but I'm done with jumping through so many hoops to MAYBE accomplish something.

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