[url=https://www.bungie.net/en/News/News?aid=13688]THANK YOU Bungie for acknowledging our search.[/url]
[i]Yesterday, those Guardians who had successfully foraged for crucial weapon fragments began the chase for the widely-anticipated Sleeper Simulant. The revelation of this new Quest was described as “awesome” by some. Others of you, who skipped meals and lost sleep on the hunt for the elusive Heavy Fusion Rifle, were not as pleased.
The response to Sleeper Simulant was humbling because we did not predict the community reaction. When we try new things, players often teach us a lesson about how to do it better, and this one has us thinking hard about how Quests communicate their availability. Our challenge is balancing between the secrecy that makes these hunts exciting, and transparency that could spoil the fun for the hunters. As long as the community is giving us feedback, we’ll keep seeking the ideal balance.[/i]
I still argue that 'time-gated content' is not the same thing as 'secrecy'.
[spoiler]Yo Bungie, OMNISniper/echolog here. I've been doing my best on reddit (/r/searchforthesleeper) to solve the mystery of the Sleeper Simulant, and today we made a BIG step in reaching that goal. I believe we have uncovered and deciphered the full quest-line for the Sleeper, as well as ALL of the related items to the quest. The cool thing is... we are only missing ONE item (and we have a good idea of where to find it).
First, huge credit to /u/DRayX17 on reddit for [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3n2g2f/new_info_relic_objective_descriptions/]THIS POST[/url] which located all of the related items and objectives!
Below is what we believe to be the full quest-line to unlock the Sleeper Simulant, complete with links to items in the database and other data-mined information that all fits perfectly. Enjoy!
[b][u]PRE-QUEST[/u][/b] - This is the phase of collecting relics and 'restoring Banshee's memory' that has to happen in order to unlock the main quest.
[b]1.)[/b] Collect 4 DVALIN fusion rifles (Dark Age Relics) and turn them into Banshee-44. These are always found in the same order:
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027711-classified]DVALIN-RAS8711-FR002[/url]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027710-classified]DVALIN-RAS93-FR001[/url]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027709-classified]DVALIN-RAS30-FR004[/url]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/943027708-classified]DVALIN-RAS432-FR003[/url],
[b]2.)[/b] Collect IKELOS Fusion Core (Golden Age Relic). [b]THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TO FIND RIGHT NOW![/b]
- [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665156-classified]The IKELOS Fusion Core[/url] requires several events to repair it. We will need to dismantle heavy weapons and take it around to Warsat events on various planets in order to repair and activate it.
- Turn the [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665157-classified]Completed IKELOS Fusion Core[/url] in to Banshee-44 to restore his memories and receive the following quest.
[b][u]ACTUAL SLEEPER SIMULANT QUEST[/u][/b] (name currently unknown)
[b]1.)[/b] After having his memory restored Banshee gives us the quest, the first step of which is 'The First Firewall' mission ([url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3mrxd1/found_possible_sleeper_quests_while_digging/]source here, credit to /u/FartSausage![/url]). He also gives us the [url=http://destinydb.com/items/2444987010]DVALIN Transponder[/url] (previously inside of the DVALIN relics) which will lead us to the source of the 'musical signal' mentioned by Banshee after turning the original relics in!
- The first step is to enter the mission and use the Transponder to find the source of the signal. We assume the source will be the 'Seraph Network Terminal' which was the result of cracking the various encoded messages on Rasputin's computer screens ([url=https://www.reddit.com/r/SearchfortheSleeper/comments/3mrxd1/found_possible_sleeper_quests_while_digging/]source here, credit to /u/Browsing_From_Work[/url]).
- Once we find the source, we will be asked to enter four passcodes into the Transponder. These codes are [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665152-classified]9[/url], [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665153-classified]8[/url], [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665154-classified]10[/url], and [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/1126665155-classified]8[/url] digits respectively. The nodes are very similar to the Rasputin symbol, and possibly represent the doors in his complex. Each node can be selected as 'open' or 'closed' and acts similar to a Binary code (1's and 0's).
- After cracking the code, we will unlock the [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/items/3774437926-classified]'Relic' version of the Sleeper Simulant itself![/url]
[b]2.)[/b] Upon bringing the Relic found in the previous step to Banshee-44, he will use his gunsmith skills to power it using the IKELOS Fusion Core and give us the [b]Completed Sleeper Simulant[/b], and then we can go shoot stuff!
Yes, the quest is only two steps. And that is important, because we already found the actual quest in the database! [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/quests/761532050-classifiedt]THIS[/url] is the actual in-game quest for the Sleeper Simulant. The reward for this quest is listed as 'Bungie Hidden Reward (3012398149)', which interestingly enough is one ONE DIGIT higher than Telesto, the only other Exotic Fusion Rifle in the game. :)
You might still be asking, [b]"How do you know getting the Core will trigger the quest?"[/b]
Well... because of [url=https://i.imgur.com/EqpkZWz.png]THIS IMAGE.[/url] That is the last page of the database when searching for 'Classified' items. You can see these items for yourself [url=http://db.destinytracker.com/search?page=4&q=classified&filter=0]right here![/url] Those items are not actually 'items' that you can find in the game. They are HIDDEN items. They represent quest trackers, which when collected, cause something to happen within the game. Each of the four DVALIN relics has one of these attached to it to tell the game which relic to drop next (which is why they always drop in the same order). Once you collect all 4 of those and the 5th IKELOS relic, they tell the game to unlock the Sleeper Simulant quest!
So that just leaves one thing... [b][u]WHERE IS THE IKELOS FUSION CORE?[/b][/u]
Well, let's take a look at it! The first 'node' on the item says this:
- MIDNIGHT EXIGENT: IKELOS subroutine
- HERCULES_11(GA=ISHTAR.ARCHIVES)
This points to two possible locations.
The first line references the IKELOS subroutine, which is not seen anywhere else in the game or the grimoire (outside of the Sleeper Simulant itself). Ikelos, in Greek Mythology, is one of the Oneiroi, the Dreamers. He is the son of Nyx (The Night) and Erebus (The Darkness). He is also the brother (or maybe son?) of Hypnos (The Sleeper). Interesting, another name for Ikelos is Phobetor. Sound familiar? The first lead we have on where to find this item is PHOBOS, the moon of Mars. This could potentially be either the Fear's Embrace or The Coming War missions. I've run through them both a few times today with friends looking for secrets, and they seem to be full of them. There are several doors that never open during the Phobos missions (particularly the door in the Oryx boss fight room) and there are lots of scannable items as well. That being said, I have no idea why a Rasputin fusion core would be in a Cabal base on Phobos... but it's worth a shot!
The second line references the Ishtar Archives, as well as the 11th Labor of Hercules. More Greek Mythology! The 11th labor is Hercules' task to steal the Golden Apples of the Hesperides. The story goes that he asks Atlas to get the apples for him, and in the meantime he has to hold up the Earth. When Atlas comes back with the Apples, Hercules has to trick Atlas into holding the Earth up while he adjusts his shoulderpads, at which point he runs off with the apples himself. Hercules is a jerk! Anyway, this line also says the GA (Golden Apple, or perhaps Golden Age Relic?) is in the Ishtar Archives. Definitely a strong candidate for the Fusion Core's location.
So yeah, there it is! We just need to find this fusion core and the Sleeper Simulant could be ours. BUNGIE PLS, GIVE ISHTAR ARCHIVES/COMING WAR DAILY HEROICS.
WE DID IT REDDI- I mean... Bungie.net :)
[b]TL;DR[/b] Destiny uses a series of invisible quest-tracking items that tell the game what to do next. Each DVALIN relic has one of these attached, and each one tells the game to drop the next one (which is why they always drop in the same order and you can't get two at the same time). The IKALOS Fusion Core has one of these tracker items attached to it as well, which indicates that it is the 5th and final relic needed to kick off the much anticipated quest for the Sleeper Simulant!
Also keep this in mind... Bungie told the Basketball Court guys they were wasting their time after ONE DAY. They haven't told us that, which I think means THIS GUN IS AVAILABLE NOW. [b]EDIT: LOL SO MUCH FOR THAT IDEA.[/b][/spoiler]
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how do you check how many fusion rifles you have turned in
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Bump for later
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45 RespuestasWelcome to the age of the Internet. Where you cant hide anything in game anymore, because it will just be ripped apart and datamined within 48 hours of coming out, the content exposed and 3000 guides put up on YouTube and then will come the bitching that there isn't enough content because everyone burned through it within a week. Yeah sure, it's not really that fun having it timelocked....but jesus, I saw the lengths people were going to on the reddit. There is no way that if they just had everything accessible from Day One of TTK that there would be anything left by now. It had to be done to preserve some fun, Im sorry but the fanbase here deserves some blame as well. If you're going to rip a games internal systems and data apart to find things as quick as possible....then it is going to result in things like this happening. Yes Bungie could've designed a better and more indepth quest....but it would've been found quick and dissected ever quicker. Welcome to the new age of gaming, where no one is innocent and everyone has to accept some of the blame.
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Please, Bump here. Thanks.
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4 RespuestasHow long do you need to wait after you complete the core and hand it back to the gunsmith... just 1 daily reset?
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1 RespuestaI don't think bungie meant that it was so secret that you could only figure out the quest by data mining lol
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Is it possible to do the quest now
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6 RespuestasEditado por Master Chief: 10/8/2015 4:11:31 PMCant wait for the exotic pulse
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Hey guys! Help an up and coming YouTuber by checking out my two part guide the sleeper simulant quest! Share to help my channel grow! Thanks guys!
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3 RespuestasEditado por Grasp of Malok: 10/7/2015 12:09:38 AMHmm. Heavy weapons eh? Good thing i didn't get rid of my year 1 guns. Edit: hat tip to you sniper Edit 2: ah damn it. don't tell me tis is bait
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Editado por jmccableguy: 10/8/2015 10:16:42 PMNew destiny? When was it ever any different? What big mystery did we have to solve before?
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1 RespuestaPlot Twist: Bungie used the SFTS theories to develop the SS quest line.
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4 RespuestasSomeone please comment so I can come back to this later?
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3 RespuestasI've turned in my completed fusion core but he doesn't give me a quest. Suggestions?
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17 RespuestasYep. Deciphered! Random Armsday event confirmed! Binary code "puzzle" too easy. Further Time Gate in place following the completion of the Mission. Ishtar Archive item is "unimaginative" per Prince Auldron. Two Story Missions are ridiculously easy to breeze through. Golden Age Relics a fake. Banshee-44 did not awaken any memories, nor did he lead us on an odyssey to repair the Sleeper Simulant. Bungie saw the posts of "it's time gates" and "hinted" "the truth is out there, and we have shown you the door" There is no door.
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1 RespuestaJust spitballing here.. In regards to the the prometheon code daily and the yellow pillars.. The sleep simulant ricochets when you shoot hard surfaces, right? And when it's fully upgraded it gets multiple ricochets. So in the mission go to the omnigul room. And try to hit all the pillars with one shot to unlock the door. Hey it's worth a shot right?
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10 RespuestasI went through all the gathering steps and hit repair. Then my fusion core disappeared, as if I destroyed it. There's no quest or mission that I can do to go back to. Nothing at the gunsmith and nothing at the postmaster. My inventories are all open.
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5 Respuestasppl moan at bad rng, then ppl moan when the items are handed out, no win situation for bungie!
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5 RespuestasThis is what happens when a conspiracy theorist gets it wrong everybody. Sign here to point and laugh.
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22 RespuestasLeaked Sleeper Simulant quest steps; Step 1 - Talk to Banshee Step 2 - Talk to Banshee again Step 3 - Wait until Armsday Step 4 - Kill 50 Fallen, Hive, Vex and Cabal within 2 minutes Step 5 - Take 25% charged Sleeper Simulant to Banshee Step 6 - Wait until Armsday Step 7 - Banshee goes into hibernation. Come back after two more Armsdays Step 8 - Collect some essence, to charge Sleeper Simulant even more, on Neptune Step 8.1 - Neptune is accessable next Armsday Step 8.2 - Kill an Ultra Dreg, that is immune to all types of damage, apart from projectiles fired from the Sleeper Simulant, to obtain said essence. Step 9 - Take essence back to Banshee Step 11 - Complete secret 'Step 10' Step 12 - Walk 7,777 steps around the Tower and all accessable planets/areas. No more, no less, otherwise you have to start quest again Step 13 - Go to Banshee Step 14 - Wait until Armsday Step 15 - Banshee - "Oh. It looks like I had the fully charged Sleeper Simulant under my garments the entire time." (Because he's so forgetful) Step 16 - Sleeper Simulant gets nerfed
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1 RespuestaBungie just keeps giving and giving and you degenerate diseased bastards ust won't quit bitching
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2 Respuestasbumps here thanks
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5 RespuestasSo are you leaving? Please say yes.
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6 RespuestasEditado por Apocriya: 10/8/2015 2:22:34 AMIdiots. Your fault for wasting your time. Why didn't you just play the game like a normal guardian? You know damn well that you were only looking for the simulant so you can have your god damn name be recognized for something, and thus becoming a special snowflake. Even if it was a joined effort, we know damn well that the person who found it in the end would go posting like crazy on Youtube about how THEY discovered the final step. That's all this ever was. A race to get yourself noticed. What a laugh. [i]<3~~Shino Asada~~<3[/i]
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I have found the sleeper Simulant! After you hand in the reassembled fusion core to Banshee-4, all you have to do is wait for the daily reset! Yes, you heard that right, you have to wait for the daily reset. Go back to Banshee the next day, he will give you an actual exotic labelled quest, "The Sleeper Stirs" which is a light level 280 variant of the S.A.B.E.R strike. Defeat the boss and then return to Banshee to claim your Sleeper!