Scrub

If you had the opportunity to snipe a Sunbreaker and kill him but you missed and he killed you, Sunbreaker is not OP, you choked. If you led a Sunbreaker out a door way and you didn't pull out your shotgun, jump above the doorway, and shotgun/melee for the kill and you died, Sunbreaker is not OP, you choked. If you sniped a Sunbreaker, pulled out your pulse rifle and had the opportunity to finish off the kill and missed and/or were killed by an opposing team member other than the Sunbreaker himself, Sunbreaker is not OP, you choked. Moral of the story, stop choking, get the kills, git gud, stop whining, and Bungie, buff Warlocks. You -blam!-ed' up

Because I said so.

Bungie? Power? Seems legit

One destiny YouTube said this about the sunbreaker class, and I happen to agree with him. The sunbreaker skill tree is focused almost entirely on its super. The class has poor to okay grenades and of course the usual Titan agility and jumping. The best perks of the subclass go towards the super. If you have a WHOLE subclass that revolves around making the super as strong as possible it's going to be very strong.

Cause you're a bitch

Cause the enemies aren't using it, stop training in worthless crucible matches when the darkness closes in on the city. [quote]Get out there[/quote]

Because little hunter bitches can't handle it do you forget golden gun and blade dancer you could do jack shit about and now there is something that's been done about it you cry like little girls I know you want kills put on a plate but now you have to earn them

Every class has cheap tricks, you weren't ready for more tricks to be on the field.

Originally posted by mongrelsagdow14: [quote]Honestly got tired of the complaint threads so I decided to take 2 friends into rumble to test. I first tested the defense both with max armor and with the extra armor you can get with a certain chest piece when using a solar based subclass. results: I had 2 snipers used. stillpeircer and black spindle. still has impact of 31 which covers 1000 yard stare and LDR. black spindle has 37 which covers black hammer and eferdeets spear. the 004 sniper was not used but has an impact of 34. snipers were used at point blank so no damage drop off was present. With max armor the 31 impact snipers leave me with a tiny sliver of health. which means the 34 impact sniper and 37 impact snipers will one shot me. With additional armor the 37 sniper one shot me. which means 3 snipers can currently one shot headshot the sunbreaker when they have the most armor possible. the 34 might be able to do it. and any sniper with a damage proc including the 31 snipers will be able to one shot. Next I tested golden gun. The result was the same both times. Point blank a golden gun will not one shot the sunbreaker. but they both leave you with a sliver of health. so if the sunbreaker has literally taken any damage at all and gets hit by golden gun they will die. It's important to note that you have to fully spec into armor in order to live from golden gun. If you don't take max armor golden gun will one shot you. Lastly I tested the damage of the hammer on direct impacts. To confirm my idea that it has the same damage model of arc blade swipes. When running max armor on blade dancer with the extra armor you take 2 hammers to kill. you're left with half of your red health bar. then I tested it against a person with max armor on storm trance but no extra armor and got the same result. to me this means it's got the same damage of the arc blade melee. If hammer of sol does any extra damage at all its so small that it's not going to matter in 90% of situations. Conclusion: the sunbreaker mid super naturally has a slight armor advantage. and it's honestly so slight it doesn't matter in my opinion. you have potentially 4 snipers with out any special perk roll that can one shot head shot. and if you are using golden gun all you have to do is hit them with anything like a nade or knife and then golden gun and they are dead. I understand people don't like that the sunbreaker can even survive it at all. However they are the tank class and all titan sub classes can tank a golden gun. so it's consistent. and hammer of sol has average damage. needing 2 hammers to kill a majority of people mid super. of course if the target has low armor it's a one hit. But everyone is always telling me max armor is the way to go in crucible. so if you aren't running it you willingly accept the concequences. end of story. I didn't test all sub classes on damage with the hammer because the 2 I did test with different situations yielded the same results. Though if someone proves me wrong with footage and explains the situation i'll retract my statement. I also didn't test sword swings or rockets. Simply because anyone mid super (bar golden gun and radiance with no radiant skin) can tank 2 sword swings and if any of the subclasses (bar the same 2) spec for max armor can survive a rocket. simply put it's not a new thing. armor always protected you from rockets and now from 2 burst deaths. and the swords follow the same damage model as arc blade does. Hopefully this thread gets around and people stop complaining about how tanky they are or how stupid strong hammer damage is. EDIT: I completely forgot to mention the shotgun testing done. I managed to survive a conspiracy D headshot at point blank when I had the max armor+ the additional armor from the chest piece. with out the additional armor from the chest piece I die. So High impact shotguns will one shot sunbreakers if they are headshots 90% of the time.[/quote][/quote]

You only live from sniper shots if you spec towards armor...

B/c yall are retarded. I shotgun melee'd one earlier np. Plus when I run mine I get one shot by gg all the time. Now I run max agility in crucible but really the subclass is terrible without the super. So nerfing it would make it unusable. Literally the reason it's so good is that everything about it is geared towards the super. It's a give and take. Worst possible subclass until you activate Thor mode.

PVP sure why not. PVE no. I run one of each so I would be effected, but it's stupid the shield is too powerful while activated.

I've never played enough PvP to care but I played against a team of Sunbreakers... jeez they take 0 skill to use. Survived about 15 shots of a machine gun and got their health back when they killed me. Yeah BALANCED.

Because your crying that they should