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Editado por PiNKCaNDYxOxO:
9/20/2015 10:21:28 PM
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Nightstalker complaints.
I see a lot of Hunters complaining about "how weak" Shadowshot is.
As someone who's first character was a Hunter, I'd like to say that this class is not at all "weak" or "underpowered". It simply takes patience to use the super effectively.
And I see a lot of Titans saying that us Hunters were very unfortunate due to our new subclass. I'd also disagree with that. Our new subclass has perks where tethered enemies explode, dealing extra damage to all. As well as another perk that gives us 3 bow shots rather than one. Our melee blinds and if you equip "envenomed" it gives them extra damage.
There's a perk that counts all tethered kills as super kills rather than regular kills.
Also, when tethered, I can have someone in my fireteam use their super on you while you are suppressed. So no, we are not unfortunate. No, bungie did not screw Hunters over. No, Nightstalker does not need a buff (looking at all you sad crying hunters right now).
ALL of the Supers are so great. I'm really proud of every single new subclass we got.
Btw: I don't even need to hit you with my bow for it to do anything. I can shoot it at the ground near you and it would tether everyone nearby.
Edit: 1000 comments (: Nice.
I gave up on checking all the comments and stuff but I will reply to some comments as I see fit.
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The best technique is the longer lasting perk on shadow shot and stormtramce. It is just so amazing and you make double orbs
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It's a support class. If you want to be aggressive, you can use either of the other 2 subclasses, which still annihilate people.
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Why can't hunters relize that shadowshot is a SUPPORT CLASS!!!!
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People who moan about it being weak clearly don't know how to use it. Its not a killer, its a damage booster. Personally I don't bother with the "quiver" I prefer one long lasting multi-tether. Then you chuck a grenade in or fire a rocket and its orbs for days. It probably isn't great for PvP (I don't main a hunter so I rarely play PvP with him) but you have 2 other boss subclasses to use.
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Editado por wOrldXploRe: 10/7/2015 5:42:17 AMI love the new hunter class. Both when I use it and when my teammates use it. Chain those enemies and watch the orbs fly, or increase recovery for everyone. Awesome. Not to mention exotic gauntlets that give you two vanishing smoke bombs.
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1 RespuestaThe super is strong in pve, just weak in pvp. Hitting someone directly should suppress their abilities upon contact. Having to wait for the tether to activate really hurts it. It is also possible for someone to tank the shadowshot and out-range the tether before it goes off avoiding their super from ever being suppressed. Also, the spike grenade is useless. The suppression grenade would be much better, because it's a frag-type and it fits the theme perfectly. The agility stat could use a buff in effectiveness (for all classes), because atm it is almost useless. Hunters can't spec into both armor and recovery while Warlocks and Titans can. The lack of recovery or armor puts Hunters at a disadvantage.
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It's an awesome subclass for both PVE and PVP. It is also a support class which most players don't seem to understand. Yes, side by side with up front instant damage classes it seems sub-par but over a longer fight it's amazing.
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I main a Warlock and I really playing on my Hunter now and using Nightstalker! I liked the class anyway but both subclasses didn't really feel right to me. As soon as I got Nightstalker on my Hunter it felt right. Personally love playing a defensive role in a team.
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I main a Titan but I've played around with the Nightstalker. Here's my two cents. The tethers should shoot out instantly after the arrows impact, or the target getting hit should at least be suppressed instantly. It's super isn't the best in pvp, but the class makes up for it by having an amazing skill tree outside otherwise. Keen scout us probably the best passive ability in pvp and is damn good in PvE too.
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I feel night stalkers have the highest kill possibilities. The super has 3 good perks,share damage with explosions,due to the tether slowing enemies it's nearly impossible not to be killed by the explosion. Black hole,makes it last longer and tether further and more people,this is ridiculously useful in rift and quiver for those that want to be a bit more aggressive. Essentially 2 grenades,1 allows you to again slow and even damage enemies,set it as a trap or use it to ghost the radar, coupled with shadestep,it's like a straight ninja, especially since you can shade step while invis without it breaking. Last but not least, arguably the best perk in the entire class,the marking, practically allowing you to see through walls, I'm honestly not sure how people are complaining about this as it's served me better than anything else out of every subclass,i mean,its just nuts So the people saying it needs a buff are treating it as if its made for really aggressive gameplay like the other 2 subclasses were. Mainly people who've only played hunters, but nightstalker is deadly and versatile
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9 RespuestasAll that needs to be changed is that if you hit someone directly it should suppress them instantly
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I'm just not a fan of the melee. I wanted throwing knives again...
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As someone who plays a lot of Vanguard, I must say that the Nightstalker is a pretty great addition, that stealth/smoke grenade works wonders if you trying to fight some of the more relentless monsters of the Darkness.
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Nightstalker is awesome. Just takes some skill and good timing.
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I was one of those hunters prior to actually using it. I thought Nightstalker was a big slap in the face to all us proud hunters. But after actually getting my hands on it, I haven't seen a reason to use GG or Bladedancer. Nightstalker is just soo good
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Increase the timer, suppress on contact Only complaints I have, I think the bow is a lot of fun.
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I would like to see the duration increase for a second or two. But that's mostly a PvE complaint I have
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The class is fine but I think it's stupid that each orb fills up such a small portion of your super compared to the old classes. So basically there's no point in creating a lot of orbs
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1 RespuestaAlways a hunter complaining about something not going there way blah blah blah.
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(Mained a Hunter since Beta) Since Hunters have never really had a support class, a lot of people who main Hunters probably wouldn't be used to the concept of using one. Spending time as both a Warlock and Titan, give you better ideas of a supportive role, even when playing as a Hunter. Personally I love Nightstalker and while I was sceptical at first if it would replace Gunslinger, I was quickly proven wrong. The thing is amazing at almost everything and while it still plays support, it's the exact opposite of a Defender. While a Defender buffs allies, Nightstalker debuffs enemies. Grenades are perfect for add and zone control Blood Bound is single handily the best way to clear mobs of enemies. Black Hole is one of the best ways to make traps and cut off zones Quiver is good at spacing out DPS to a boss and good in Crucible Smoke is good for knocking enemies off balance Envenomed is mostly only good for Crucible but still has merits for add and zone control Vanish is the dogs bollocks, instant panic invis for both you and your team mates. Snare is okay, but only really useful in Crucible and even then Envenomed is better. Courage of the Pack is stepping into Defenders turf, making it good at both sides of the field Light of the Pack, makes Nightstalker the best orb generator in the game Lockdown is perfect for Crucible and even more so for adds and even minor medic roles Keen scout is good for multiple things. Mark a major that needs taking down for everyone on the Fireteam Move faster into and out of cover or to revive chests and materials are just a nice extra Predator turns Shadow Shot into a bait and run trap. Brilliant for those who miss or are trying to land a tricky shot Shadestep is just fun and Crucible aid really, but still good. Overall, Nightstalker is the Subclass Hunters needed. Those who say otherwise are either idiots, selfish or haven't tried it yet.
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Nightstalker has extremely good perks but it could use a little super buff
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4 RespuestasYou're daft mate. Shadowshot is so good. It's a devastating solo or support super. You have to be garbage to not appreciate it. The only issues with the Nightstalker sublass are: 1. Shadestep is broken 2. Spike grenade is also broken
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It's kinda weak by itself but if you get quiver I say it turns into a good super. Just wish they extended the duration for a few seconds so I don't feel so rushed lol
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3 RespuestasNightstalker is amazing when you master it. Smoke is such an incredible ability if you use it perfectly.
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I'm a hunter and If you learn how to shoot it in PVP you can one shot everybody I don't see why people are complaining. Same with people saying Titans are op and warlocks. If you learn how to play with nightstalker you can shut down Titans and warlocks with one shot.
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2 RespuestasI've come to the conclusion that people who think Nightstalker is bad are usually PvP-only players and general suck in PvE. Had a hunter refuse to switch to Night for the DPS buff in King's Fall because he would rather go invisible and run away from adds. If any class needs looked at, it's Stormcaller. At least when a Golden Gunner gets 1-shot by a shotgun, he can trade. Stormcallers *might* get an assist.
