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1/25/2015 5:19:18 PM
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Bungie is Changing Loot System in House of Wolves
Take a look at this post from Luke Smith, who seems about as close to development as we're going to get. It's so open and straightforward. I don't understand why Deej can't provide information like this.
Like/bump to keep it alive and spread the word.
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=148984121&postcount=3062
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1 ReplyEdited by Commander Zavala: 1/27/2015 12:05:55 PMLuke smith provides us information that we actually want to hear in one post. Deej is on post number ??? And has yet to say anything that has been helpful or good. Luke Smith for MVP
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The more I think about it, the more all that is in this post should be taken with a grain of salt. Why it seems a big advantage to not have to relevel all your exotic gear, we don`t know yet what the price for that will be. I doubt that they will keep it at ExoticShard+7000 Glimmer. They will probably introduce another material that will be needed to upgrade an exotic, like Runed Core and the Crux, ths material would be rather rare, because they want us to make a choice when upgrading, it has to cost us sth, and highlevel players are already drowning in coins/motes/shards. "Vendor gear invalidating the effort of VOG Raiders" This will simply mean that they will leave the Lightlevel of Vendorgear for the nextg expansion at 31, so it is utterly useless for the new Raid.
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I am all for fixes but not for making the game easier for lazy Guardians who want more drops, more weapons, more materials etc. but want to sit on their asses not wanting to do the grinding that is required. I am very close to my thousand hours and with the last update Guardians with 200 hours have the same Gear I have. Like everything in life you should be rewarded for hard work not because you are a lazy ass that sits and complains about what you should be getting because you paid for it. That said, I have met amazing guys online who grinded away many hours with me on Raids and Strikes. From start to finish. They are the guys that deserve the good stuff. The rest of you that jump into my Nightfall strike when I am almost done or only want a Templars, Atheon or Crota CP to get the quick and easy way, go and do your cute little dances and waves in the Tower and stay out of the serious stuff.
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1 ReplyEdited by Duuidz: 1/26/2015 1:15:59 PMThese are the kinds of updates the community wants, not the big pats on the back we seem to see every week which really covers nothing. The just of the updates right now are [i]"Players did this! Here's a write up of someone you've never heard of! Here we are patting ourselves on the back! Also IRON BANNER!"[/i] I want to know what they're going to change or what they're thinking about changing. Why not pose the changes to the community and then get feedback instead of releasing an update, pissing everyone off and then getting a bunch of feedback that's not constructive. I have far less respect for Bungie since Destiny came out, there are so many developers out there that listen to feedback and get player input on planned updates to games. Destiny is very much an experiment, we are all testing the game, this is very evident by by Bungie acknowledging that they are seeing what works and what doesn't work when they release a patch (which would be much easier to find out by just ASKING the community). EDIT: I just realized that the weekly update is exactly like the weekly nightfall. You're hoping for something good but get something useless and have to wait for the next week to try again.
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I think they will change a lot with the HoW. When you think about it they did not release any information about the DB currency until a week in advance. The public was outraged, but by that time it was way to late to go back to the drawing board and change things. I know with my employment I do not like seeing negative feedback on anything I do, so I would expect Bungie to see where they made mistakes and try to remedy them in the future. Things that really upset people: Vendor gear being light level 33 when the VoG gear is still 30. Rendering all ascendant material useless with the release of a new DLC. Resetting exotics to upgrade damage (which really wasn't even that bad considering the updated versions had higher damage output anyway). Lowering the amount of loot gained from doing the new raid when they made previous loot worthless... If this report is indeed real I do believe they will change their strategy with future DLCs.
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5 RepliesNo they aren't. Don't buy this garbage marketing - they said they'd fix the story in Dark Below. How did that work out? "We promise we'll fix everything you don't like! Just buy the DLC and keep playing!" There are many bugs since day 1 they still refuse to fix (heavy ammo bug, wiping out vaults, deleting characters).
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4 RepliesLies just to get your hard earned money from your pockets
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I'll believe it when I see it.
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I call bullshit. They just say so, so that people who haven't bought season pass will use that as some sort of last chance. Anyways still have taken to long for them to fix something that should have been fixed so you could get rewarded for their first two raids and nightfalls fairly. And even going to make you pay for it again by releasing it with new dlc.
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The Elder Scrolls Online comes out for consoles on June 9th you say? And Zenimax Onine dropped the sub fee at the same time? Looks like I'll be getting lost in an MMO come June... I'll be more than happy to leave my destiny behind and take charge of my own fate.
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We can hope cause the last time sucked
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What they need to do. I don't mind the level cap increasing, but the need to make all of the items increase. Even if I have to run VoG more, I wouldnt mind if the items I got dropped at the new levels. Secondly the problem with Shards is that we are very limited in how many we can get in a given week. If would be fine if we could just run the raid more than once and still get rewards.
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5 RepliesEdited by longevity: 1/26/2015 3:38:32 AMDeej is a flat out PR guy who presents mostly useless feelgood info on a regular basis so the company can say it communicates with the playerbase Deej also loves using any stat EXCEPT # of players, sales, etc. Mostly anything that can be misconstrued as Destiny not have a mass exodus of 90%+ of the people who bought it Deej is the pulse rifle of communication with the players, pretty much worthless
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We have no way of actually knowing if that IS luke smith, And even if it [i]was[/i] we have no way of knowing if they'll make good on their promises. They've lied to us before, they'll do it again
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That's fine. I'm not in any rush for the loot system to change. It's been generous enough to me.
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Cause DEEJ is a crack addict and doesn't know what day it is
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Bump nice post, thx for sharing!
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Edited by Curious Finger: 1/26/2015 9:14:22 PMThe new raid takes place on a huge fallen ship, seen a guy glitch into it toady. It's real easy to look up on you tube. Just search glitch fallen ship raid destiny. You'll find it. ALL content is already on the disk.
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That's not really changing the loot system. More materials, and not having to relevel exotics seems the best we can hope for atm. And that's not nothing, just it's not like a total overhaul of the system.
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1 ReplyI like how he confirms the "we invalidated players efforts in VoG by offering higher lvl vanguard gear" thanks for confirming that. Like they didnt know it was going to piss off everybody that grinded VoG. I'm sure it was a huge surprise.
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1 Reply[quote]The part where this didn't work as well as we'd hoped is with the Shard economy. Shards are a are a barrier between you and equipping a sweet new piece of gear. [b]We want fewer barriers to equipping upgrades[/b]. The shard economies erect these barriers between players and the new piece of gear they just got. [/quote]Uh, riiiiight. I call bullshit. You can't feign ignorance about something [i]this painfully obvious[/i].
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They're watching their player base shrink and their forums turn into (even more of) a cess pool of negativity and "blam you" bungie. HOW will have about the same amount of content as DB, and it will once again, get terrible reviews just like DB did, and sales will suffer. and you know how many posts there are of "I bought the expansion pack, but I'm done after HOW" so they're going to try to be "more generous" with the games loot system so 6 months down the line people will pay the astronomical price of 60 for comet/plague of dickholes. It honestly sounds like all the negativity surrounding the game finally got to one of the designers....
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8 RepliesYup, we are playing a beta.
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This is the kind of communication the community wants to see on a regular basis
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3 Replies[quote]Take a look at this post from Luke Smith, who seems about as close to development as we're going to get. It's so open and straightforward. I don't understand why Deej can't provide information like this. Like/bump to keep it alive and spread the word. http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=148984121&postcount=3062[/quote] One good thing to look for now tho, hopefully they implant these changes well. I think it was the biggest dark cloud going with the exotic perk reset. Also raid gear becoming obsolete over the horizon and limited customisation choices
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Edited by T3mpest: 1/26/2015 4:35:07 PMSounds great. I feel like the did a good job overall on Crotas end. Running a single warlock every week, I only had to make another warlock the very last week before HM came out to make 32. My pair of hunters who did 2x a week every week but the last week, had it no issues. ( I still need a warlock chest tho I got the helmet lol). THAT being said, I think the guns are too common of a drop, at least primaries are. I've ran crota 2x on hard this week all the way through, beaten crota 3x. I have literally every gun except the Assault rifle and I know several guardians who got all 3 guns this week between 3 toons. Primaries need to be more rare than that, IMO, because many guardians after next week will really just be in it for deathsingers and crota looking for an exotic. Kinda deflating to know that I will possibly get the AR tonight. If that happens I'll be running normal mode only just to get a chest for my warlock, then IDK lol. The amount of radiant materials if it needs to increase at all, is only by maybe 1 more per drop, or add 1 chest. I think my shards/energy was pretty close to where it needed to be, 1 more chest per run would be fine, maybe make trading shards for energy a rank 3 thing as well, instead of rank 4
