I feel ya on most of this. The initial trust for 30s in raid groups will go down. They'll be a whole new class of kids who can't help a group through the rough parts of the raid. BUT they did put a lot of time into getting rank 3/4 in IB (albeit in a short amount of time) and still need at least one piece of raid gear to hit the 30 mark and join the Master Race. The way I see it, it'll cause people looking for help with raids to be more vigilant with whom they recruit. (I have a long drawn out, unfeasible idea on how to avoid the confusion that involves players having two levels. One in PvE and one in PvP.) Everyone deserves an out to get to 30, and as happy as I am there's a second way to do it now, it is going to muddy up the picture on who can perform certain tasks, since not everyone walking around as a 30 has the same resume now. Personally, I'd like to see a way to get it with faction armor. But I'd also like for the factions to function as more than a cosmetic shop.