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Edited by ColdAtrophy: 11/3/2014 8:02:32 PM
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To Mr. Harold Ryan

[b]MAJOR UPDATE:[/b] Deej responded to me calling his attention to this thread in another thread. http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/76633207/0/0 It will probably get buried rather quickly because every time he posts, 1000 replies follow. Deej [quote]You weren't ignored. I read that. The point that Harold was making was that, when someone plays a game for 100 hours, you learn a lot. We've obviously created something you want to play. It's very obvious that you want to talk to us about how it can be better. When we stay focused on game feedback, good things can happen.[/quote] [b]EDIT: Please read the article I linked to before posting. I have been accused of taking his statement out of context, which I do not feel I did at all, and I want to make sure that no one feels like I mislead them. [/b] [quote]Harold Ryan: It's so broad. When I read a lot of the feedback, and I see it's after playing for 100 hours, it's hard not to couch that in, well if you played the game for 100 hours... What other game do you play for 100 hours, right?[/quote] This is not grounds for dismissing our feedback like you suggest. I'm calling you out. What games do we play for more than 100 hours? Since you don't seem to know of any, please allow me and my fellow gamers to educate you. Fellow Bungie.net users, please feel free to add to this list and/or tweet away @Bungie or @Destiny your ideas about how many other games you can put more than 100 hours into. I'll start. Morrowind Oblivion Skyrim Any CoD game Mass Effect 1 - 3 (I logged 400 hours on ME3's MP alone) Dragon Age Borderlands 1 Borderlands 2 Any Battlefield game (I personally have logged over 1200 hours between BF3 and BF4) Any Halo game Any Guitar Hero or Rockband Diablo 1-3 Star Wars: KoToR 1 & 2 There are many more. [b]MANY. MORE.[/b] [u]From responses to the OP:[/u] 1943 2048 Ace Combat 5 Aces High 2 Act Raiser Advanced Wars series on GBA, DS & emu 2000+ hours over a decade of play Age of Empires (series) Aion Alpha Protocol America's Army 2 Angband Angry Birds Anno 2070 (with and without the A.R.R.C. mod) APB ArmA 2 & 3 Assassin's Creed (series) Baldur's Gate 1 & 2 Batman Arkham series Battle Cats Battle chess Battle of the immortals Battlefield (series) Bejeweled Bioshock 1 and 2 Bladestorm Bloody roar(ps1) Blue Dragon Body Harvest Borderlands series - I have no clue how long, but long… Brave Frontier Breath of Fire Breath of Fire 3 Buck Rogers Countdown to Doomsday Burnout Paradise C9 Call of Money, Black holes II Candy Crush (LOL!!!!!) Castle Crashers Charades Checkers Chrono Trigger (SNES, PSX, DS) Chutes and ladders City of Heroes/Villains Civilization III, IV, V including expansions, DLCs and mods Civilization Revolution (console and app) Colony Wars 1-2 Command and Conquer Commander Keen Contra Cornhole (Yep, that's right) Crash Bandicoot Crimson Skies Crystal Saga Curse of the Azure Bonds Cursed Treasure 2 Dance Dance Revolution (series) Dark Forces 2: Jedi Knight Darksider 1 & 2 DayZ DBZ Budokai (series) Dead Island Dead or Alive Deadpool Dead Rising Dead Space - I put 100 hours into the first game alone Defenders of the Crown Defiance Demon souls, dark souls, dark souls II - well over 900 hrs Deus Ex Devil May Cry Diablo Digimon World Dusk Doom and Doom 2 (oddly not 3) DOTA 1 And 2 Dr. Mario Dragon Age Dragon Realms Dragon Warrior Duck Hunt Dungeon Defenders Dynasty Warriors 5 E.T. Earth defense force - any Earthbound The Elder Scrolls (series) Elsword EVE Online Everquest The Evil Within (Just started 2 weeks ago) Excelsior Eye of the Beholder Series Fable series Fallout 3 Fallout New Vegas Far cry (including 3 but not limited to 3) - 250 hrs Farmville Fate of Resonance Faxanadu FIFA Fight Night Champion Final Fantasy (any ever made) Fire Emblem Sacred Stones & Shadow Dragon FlyFF Football Manager Forza (series) Free Lancer Freespace 2 Frogger Gary's Mod +/- 400 hours Gauntlet dark Legacy Gears of War (series) God of War (all) Golden Sun G-Police Gran Turismo 1 & 2 Grim Dawn GTA series (including Chinatown wars) - 300 hrs Guild Wars 2 Guitar Hero/Rockband (series) GunZ online Half-Life and the games in the Orange Box Halo (series) Hang man Hearts Heroes of Might and Magic 5 Heroes of Newearth Hopscotch Horseshoes (this too) Hungry hungry hippo Infamous Ivan Stewart's baja 1000 James Bond: Golden Eye James Bond: The World is Not Enough Journey (Atari 2600) J-RPG (any) Just Cause 2 Kingdom Hearts Kingdom of Amalur Reckoning Kingdom Rush 1 & 2 Knights & Dragons over 150+ hours(iOS game) League of Legends Leap frog Left 4 Dead Legend of Mana Lego Batman Lego Rock Raiders Lego Star Wars (all) Life Link Little Big Planet (each of them) Lord of the Dragons (Roughly 1850+ hours over 2 years) Lost Odyssey LOTR: Twin Towers the game (that co-op mode was fantastic!) Madden games (any especially older versions) Maple Story Mario 64 Mario Party (console and portable) Mario galaxy 1 and 2 Mario Kart 64 Marvel VS capcom Mass Effect (all) OH MY GAWD YES Masters of Orion and MOO2 MechWarrior 2-4 Medal of Honor Medal of Honor: Frontline Mercenaries 1 & 2 (which I just ironically realized has a better story than destiny, which is sad) Meridian 59 Metal Gear series Metro 2033 and last light - 100-125 hrs Mickey Thompson’s Off Road Racing game (name eludes me) Minecraft (sheesh does this guy live in a box?) Minesweeper Monopoly Monster Hunter Monster rancher Mortal Kombat (series) Mount & Blade MUDs (a couple, don't remember the names, easily logged hundreds of hours into both getting to tri av or SAV status) Mutant League Hockey Myself NCAA football (multiple) Need For Speed (series) Neverwinter series Ninja Gaiden Path of Exile Perfect Dark Phantasy Star Online 1 & 2 Pinball (that one that came with windows) Pitfall Planescape: Torment Pokemon (any) Pong Pools of Darkness Pools Of Radiance Portal 1/2 Punchout Quebert Ragnarok online 1 & 2 Rainbow Six 3: Ravenshield Rainbow Six Vegas Raptor Ratchet and Clank: Up Your Arsenal (those guns!) Red Alert (and subsequent expansions) Red Alert 2 (and subsequent expansions) Red Dead - 200 hrs Red Faction Resident Evil 5 Rift Rise of Nations Risk Rogue RUA series(rainbow unicorn attack) Runescape Rush N' Attack Saints Row Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe Sega- sonic games, aladdin, jungle book, nba jam Shadow of Mordor Shadowrun (Genesis, SNES, and 360) Shaia Shin Megami Tensei games Sid Meier's Pirates! Silkroad Sim City Smite Snake Snake Rattle & Roll Socom games - 300 hrs Sonic (1 & 2) Sorry Soul Caliber series Soul Edge Soul Sacrifice Space Invaders Spades Splatterhouse Splinter Cell series S.T.A.L.K.E.R series (with and w/o mods) - 1500 hrs at least Star Ocean 2 Star port Star Wars Star Wars KoToR 1 & 2 Starcraft Street fighter ex plus Streetfighter 2 Streets of Rage1-2 Super Mario (1-3) Super Mario 64 Super Mario Bros. Super Mario Bros. All-Stars Super Smash Bros. Supreme Commander and its expansion pack Forged Alliance (expansion that actually added shit tons of new content) well over 100 hours each. Symphony of the night Syndicate (original) Taboo Tales of Vesperia Team Fortress 2 Tecmo Super Bowl Tekken Tera Terraria Terror from the Deep Tetris The Last of Us The Legend of Dragoon The Settlers (series) The Witcher 1 & 2 Tic tac toe Tiddlywinks Tie Fighter Titanfall TMNT (arcade version) Torchlight 2 Total Dark Toukiden Trivial pursuit Twisted Metal Twisted metal series Two Dots UFO enemy unknown Ultima Online Vagrant Story Vendetta Online Vindictus Viva Piñata (Yes, really.) Walking Dead The Game (potentially stretching it here - maybe 50 hours?) War Thunder World of Warcraft Warframe Warhawk Watch Dogs Wild arms Wing Commander Series Wolfenstein (the old one) Wonderboy in Monsterland World of Tanks Xcom: Enemy Unknown and the expansion Enemy Within (also omfg yes) Xenosaga games X-Wing Yugioh capsule monster coliseum Yugioh duelist of the roses Yugioh Forbidden Memories Zelda (series) Zone 66

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  • Edited by grimtooth: 11/2/2014 6:01:51 AM
    you can add in the first MMO RPG for console that was done right, everquest online adventures by Sony for the PS2. They can look at that to see what a good console MMO is all about and the time sink it was. Before the first expansion my group of four people had over 500 hours in the game.

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  • Join us, Fellow gamers!

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  • This post is to add to the Game list LodeRunner (Apple IIe) Beyond Dark Castle [B&W] {Silicon Beach Software} (Mac) [not the colour one in the Mac App Store] Crystal Quest (Mac) B&W + Colour (Mac LCII [I also have the moden XBL version but not counting the time for that] SimCity 2000 (Mac) Railroad Tycoon {Microprose} (PC) Knights of the Sky {Microprose} (PC) X2:The Threat {Egosoft} (PC) X3: Reunion {Egosoft} (PC) X3: Terran Conflict {Egosoft} (PC) X-Rebirth* {Egosoft} (PC) (These 4 games can be summarised on the list as X-Universe Series) * I've logged over 100 hours on X-Rebirth prior to patch 2.5. I want to say a bit more specifically about X-Rebirth so I'll be replying to this post in order not to hijack the thread. A Shout Out to the people that played the Street Fighter 2 Arcade Machine trying to defeat Bison I think you've put in 100 hours. A request for anyone with 100+ hours in Game Dev Tycoon to post on this thread cause that needs to go officially on the list

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    • socom us navy seals one and two , awesome multiplayer game on ps2.

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    • My wife's fun bags;) I play with these puppy's the most.

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    • Hey there! I found a video that helps describe what a DLC is and an "Expansion" spread the video to other people. It's in my post

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    • bumpity bump

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    • Swtor.. If I had a PC I would still be on that as a paying member. 400 hours plus on that.

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    • Space invaders, Yars revenge, asteriod, combat, galaga, river raid, frogger, moon buggy, dig-dug all 2600 greats

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    • It's hilarious that these people working in the game industry honestly think that just by logging 100 hours into their game that it somehow is AMAZING, even though the feedback on those 100 hours is -blam!-ing terrible... Not to mention the only reason this game is even getting that many logged hours is SOLELY because of the multiplayer aspects this game offers. It has been well documented that everything else about this game, besides the base controls, is -blam!-ING TERRIBLE... How these people are so out of touch with gaming is beyond me, it's sickening.

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    • Edited by Musashi Orboro3: 11/2/2014 5:57:06 AM
      [quote]This is not grounds for dismissing our feedback like you suggest. I'm calling you out.[/quote] I think you are taking his comments out of context. He's not saying that he is dismissing feedback based on the number of hours people play. I'll try to paraphrase: [quote]When I read a lot of the feedback, and I see it's after playing for 100 hours, it's hard not to couch that in[/quote] [i]The feedback of people who have played for 100 hours or more is not something to be ignored.[/i] That's what he means by "couch that in." [quote]well if you played the game for 100 hours... What other game do you play for 100 hours, right?[/quote] [i]What other types of games do people play for such extended periods of time? What is it about them that keeps people playing?[/i] In short, he's asking what are these games doing right. Bungie certainly has enough feedback, many of us have expressed to them what is wrong and needs to be fixed, and it does seem that they are listening. However, the ball is in [b]Bungie's[/b] court now. We can continue to give them feedback, and they can continue to tell us they're listening, but ultimately the burden is on them to prove that they can put things right.

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      • Bump

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      • This deserves a bump even though no one in the company would ever inform money bags over there that he is conceited in thinking a game is awesome after 100 hours played. Insult to the gaming community. Surprised no real outlets (IGN etc) haven't called him out oh wait thats right all of the media outlets beg for his approval...

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        • Bump.

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        • They still haven't addressed the differences between the game they hyped for preorders and the game they delivered. Open world? Brilliant story?

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          • Many, many of those I have played for a lot of time, and I'm trying to avoid common doubles like dark souls or mass effect. Kingdom of Amalur reckoning Castle crashers Mario galaxy 1 and 2 Mario kart Minecraft Super smash bros (especially the 64 original!) Fable 1,2, 3 There are so many!

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            • Excuse me?! Where in the flying f*** is Gary's Mod on that list? But seriously, Gary's Mod and Legend of mana I easily clock in at over 400 hours and I'm the low score out of my friend on that one.

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              • 2k hours in dota 2......

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                • Continuing to bump

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                  • Fallout, disgaea 1, 2, 3, nearly all final fantasies, Pokemon Mario kart Flyff Etc

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                  • Agreed and Ive played a good majority of the games on that list and even more. A little embarrassing to admit but final fantasy tactics took me four years from when I was 10 to complete with everything in game unlocked and maxed. I could only imagine the hours I logged to FFT while i was also addicted to spyro the dragon.

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                    • Well here goes nothing for tomorrow when they realize their Twitter got bombarded.

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                      • Warframe totally-like destiny but expanding

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                        • Saw a few of the Civs on the list but not Civ IV specifically the Caveman2Cosmos mod. Also, Advanced Wars 1&2 on GBA & DS. Even downloaded EMU versions a couple years ago to replay them. Same with Super Mario RPG. Loved that game.

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                        • Edited by JOYROCK: 11/3/2014 4:49:13 AM
                          only reason i got alot of hours played is because i like shooting things and ppl in game!!, theres nothing else for me!!!, so since i love fps games so much i had to keep playing, ... ive been destiny free for 1 week, go look at my hours now Ryan!!, go see the major drop in my hours, lmao what an ignorant prick, he dont know shit about gaming, cod is 12 mins away, go check my hours on cod aw in 2 weeks asshole!!

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                          • Chaos legion, Lost Odyssey, Shadow Hearts. (Had a better story than destiny.)

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