JavaScript is required to use Bungie.net

Destiny

Discuss all things Destiny.
Edited by solid stone1993: 10/22/2014 12:59:30 AM
350

A new way to get to 30

I have to add this first part because people keep thinking I made this up in order to just hit level 30. The entire point behind it is to give more replay value to the entire game, not just the raid. Making EVERYTHING endgame content, and not just having the raid to do in order to progress. And allow every single player to look unique, while still being able to get to 30 and not having to ONLY wear raid gear. So I just kinda had this thought and wanted to share it. As of now the only way to hit level 30 is to have all raid gear, or 3 and 1 exotic. There's not a lot of room for unique snowflakes in this game. So I propose a new method. We already have the currency of motes of light, that are being wasted on pointless class items, emblems, and random exotic engrams. What if instead of having to find raid gear, you made it? As it is now you hit 20, then every time you get enough xp to "level up" you instead get a mote of light. This is already a great system. Now what if you used those motes of light to "level up" the rarity of your armor? The cost increases after every rarity increase, it wouldn't be 1 mote and boom raid gear. The lower the rarity, the lower the cost to bump it up. So maybe a white item only costs 5 motes to get to green, then 15 to get to blue, 30 to legendary, and 50 to raid (now don't explode, this is just an example, the price can vary, I just put this here as a placeholder so people can understand). You cant up the rarity until you have maxed out all the current stats on that piece. Then it adds another defense buff that you can unlock. (Or perk depending on what rarity you're coming from but that's explained in an edit down below). You can choose your favorite looking gear, and make it stronger. It could maybe add random perks to it as you go? I haven't really thought that through. You're constantly working for it in everything you do. No matter if you play PVP or PVE, you're not wasting your time doing a hour long raid, getting nothing, or actually getting something and looking like everyone else. This would let every player be their own legend, while taking out all the frustration of the annoying RNG based level system. Better players will get more xp faster, but not so skilled players will still be trucking along getting xp for motes, no matter what they do. Now this doesn't mean the raid is pointless. There are still raid weapons, and all they would have to do is make the raid pay out tons of xp. It gives players a reason to do it, but doesn't force them to do it for specific items. I know I'd be a lot happier getting a random item when I can level up my armor, instead of saying "-blam!-! Just give me raid boots already!". Strikes would actually be useful after level 28, as they would pay out xp along with the random engrams and what not. I just think it would give everything in the game more reason to actually do those tasks, and make it more fun. So let me know what you guys think. If I haven't clarified something enough let me know. I wrote this in a hurry. Edit 1: so for the perks, it could be something along the lines of green will have a defense buff, when you get to rare, you can choose one actual perk that suits your play style. Something like "reload special weapons faster" or "hold more ammo for this weapon". Once you get to legendary it's more defense buffs and you choose your second perk. Then when you get to raid, it's more defense buffs. You couldn't have OP armor with game breaking perks, but still have something that helps YOU specifically. Edit 2: I've seen a lot of comments saying a transmog system would be easier. That's what I was originally hoping they would have in the game, but the idea of using motes to level up makes destiny somewhat original without straight up stealing from WOW. Besides we already have the currency that is used on nothing but pointless items. And leveling up a piece of gear could take a good chunk of motes since they are somewhat easy to obtain. Edit 3: so here I am again, as I've seen people say this wouldn't be "working" for it, or level 30 would just be handed out. This isn't true at all. You have to play the game to get xp. This opens up the entire game to be the "endgame content" instead of only being able to do the raid in order to progress. You would have to do the daily missions, the nightfall, strike playlists, and the raid in order to get xp faster. There are still unique items in the raid that can only be obtained there. It could take something like 50 motes in order to level up a piece of armor to max stats. Only people that put in the time would get the xp, you would just always be actively working toward your goal no matter what you do. This also brings in more replay value for DLC. Right now if you're level 29 the only thing worth your time is the raid, but with this idea, those new missions and strikes would still help you. Edit 4: okay so a lot of people like this idea, and I thank your for your support. Yet a lot of you also feel the need to tell me in every aspect how "this idea is dumb, you're stupid, be a man and do the raid, I had to do it the hard way, so everyone else should too." So I've learned lots of people are just dicks whose only purpose in life is to put others down. If you don't have anything constructive to say, don't bother posting. If you're coming here to say how it isn't that hard and nothing needs to change because RNG worked for you, don't bother posting. I've had this thread up for one day and I already hate everything about it. Now if you have told me how you disagree, or listed something else as a possible fix that you think is better, and haven't acted like a child or Dnozzle to get it across then I truly appreciate it. Edit 5: man I'm making a lot of edits.. This thing is getting pretty long.. Anyway a lot of people think this would make the raid pointless. I've already stated that the raid could pay out the most xp and has unique items like the weapons and the armor that DO NOT need to be upgraded via motes to hit 30. You would still have tons of incentive to do the raid, without being forced to do it, and only the raid once you reach level 26. The raid could also pay out motes of light. I mean you are facing the biggest baddies of the DARKNESS, wouldn't it make sense to get LIGHT in return? I realize a lot of you have done the raid and received your armor from that, and don't want people to now be able to get to 30 without going through what you had to do. Like I said the raid could still have all the unique rewards, so when you see a guy using those gold weapons or wearing all raid (actual raid armor, not the "raid status" armor I've been talking about) armor, you'd know he beat it. Maybe any other armor that gets you to 30 could have a lower defense rating or something, the raid armor still has it's own unique perks that you can't get anywhere else. The warlock raid helmet has a chance to spawn orbs of light when you kill a vex with a critical hit, or a melee depending on what perk you choose.
English
#Destiny

Posting in language:

 

Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • I very much approve of this idea, I hope bungie is reading this and taking notes.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • I like it. I'd like to be a unique snowflake myself, so this is definitely interesting for people like me.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • This is a great idea as people who can't do the raid because they don't have any friends that play the game. If they dint make it to easy this could work really well!! Because glimmer has no use except buying ammo and leveling up armor.

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

  • But then people who only PvP could hit 30...

    Posting in language:

     

    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    1 Reply
    • Very nice and well thought out, +1 and bumped.

      Posting in language:

       

      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

    • I'm sorry people's impoliteness has gotten to you. I think you had a really good idea and explained it well. It addresses a bunch of problems without departing far from existing frameworks. I don't think they'll make a change this dramatic, but we can hope they might take the points on board for the future. Don't let thoughtless people get you down. We have a long way to go towards approaching people's ideas with respect.

      Posting in language:

       

      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

      1 Reply
      • how bout they remove light from armor and add augments like the class items that effect light level

        Posting in language:

         

        Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

      • Want a new way to get to 30? Wait until DLC comes out, when you can run full exotic armor, and have it level you up to level 30-31. Then, level 32 will be the new level 30

        Posting in language:

         

        Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

        2 Replies
        • I like the idea especially edit #5. I say good idea and bungie should at least take this into consideration

          Posting in language:

           

          Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

        • There should be other ways to get to level 30. I finished the VOG twice. I Opened all but one loot chest. All i got was ascedent meterials and a couple of GREEN engram drops. I DID THE WHOLE RAID and received shit. A friend who joined for the final less then 5 minuts on the last raid received TWO (2) EXOTICS. Gess why i´m not too eager to doing this raid again?

          Posting in language:

           

          Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

          4 Replies
          • Edited by ZEE THE CEO: 10/20/2014 2:22:27 PM
            The current way to get to 30 is fine. I like that only those who persevere receive such an honor.

            Posting in language:

             

            Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

            9 Replies
            • I think there should be more levels and harder missions/raids as for the people who have hit the 30 fully upgraded gear and weapons have nothing else to do apart from doing the same stuff over and over again everyday till when ever the next game they like comes out im gkad i havent yet beat vog or any raids as it would just get boring very fast

              Posting in language:

               

              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

              7 Replies
              • Add level 28 strikes Strike specific armor can give level 30 Strike armor has 2 special abilities Raid gear hits level 30 as well Raid gear has 3 special abilities No lockout on strikes Keep lockout on raid Boom.

                Posting in language:

                 

                Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

              • That's like saying you should be able to pay to beat the game without actually doing any work. You can get motes of light from killing lvl 7 enemies. Why should you be level 30 if all you had to do is prove you can kill level 7 enemies. To be the best you have to beat the best. That's the way it is.

                Posting in language:

                 

                Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                9 Replies
                • There should be varied ways to get to 30 as people play this game in different ways. Bungie making the VoG the only way to max out your level is pathetic. Some people hate raiding, some people cant stand PvP , some do not like grinding xp. But this is what makes or breaks an mmo style of game. I already now have lost 5 of my online friends as they have stopped playing Destiny. Masses of people are level 27 and 28 and the game to them is finished. They do not have enough online friends( massive error by Bungie) so they can not attain max level. Who the hell wants to play a game where the maximum level is something you simply can not get. Like every other mmo that had sense and knowledge of the mmo mechanics there are multiple ways to attain max level. I personally over the last 3-4 days have tried VoG pugging and it was a joke. So therefore there is nothing for me to do. The games utter tedious bounties and Strikes over and over again for no reward is simply not fun. I am now trading my game in with sadness. The way Bungie has done the levelling after 20 is a farce. Not being able to get max level is ridiculous. Bungie must alter this especially after so many low gaming marks and terrible reviews have been thrown at them. DLC is too far away and the content now is not enough to keep people happy. Pity.

                  Posting in language:

                   

                  Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                  20 Replies
                  • All the casuals in here looking for hand outs ha!

                    Posting in language:

                     

                    Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                    22 Replies
                    • It's RAID GEAR, not save motes of light gear. Either raid or you don't get it. Not trying to be rude but that's how it is and it shouldn't change.

                      Posting in language:

                       

                      Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                      7 Replies
                      • Looks like a solid idea to me. Making all of the content worthwhile seems like a plus for everyone.

                        Posting in language:

                         

                        Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                        1 Reply
                        • One raid coin for completing a raid and armor costs 5 coins, solves everything

                          Posting in language:

                           

                          Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                        • [quote] You can choose your favorite looking gear, and make it stronger.[/quote] Some of the lower level gear actually looks a ton better imo. it would be nice to have an option like this. just dont make it a "xur" option.

                          Posting in language:

                           

                          Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                          1 Reply
                          • The whole point of getting to level 30 is to be able to raid. if you dont want to raid then why do you want to reach 30?

                            Posting in language:

                             

                            Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            3 Replies
                            • Do what they did in Lineage 2...buy scrolls and every scroll makes it +1 Make a cap at +20 (20 makes it raid) but the higher your points, the bigger the chance is for it not to work. (+1=100.0%, +2=90.0%, so on)

                              Posting in language:

                               

                              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            • 3
                              How about something simpler like item crafting? You take your raid gear and a lower rarity armor item that you like and simply craft them together giving the lower tier item the raid gear stats. Then boom you have your lvl 30 guardian with whatever armor you like.

                              Posting in language:

                               

                              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            • Edited by ZeroMike: 10/21/2014 8:29:18 AM
                              I had a different idea that I proposed to my friend as a way to increase variety amongst level 30 players. A new item reward that you have a chance of getting from a raid, this item would essentially function similar to the sparrow upgrade that you can get from Xur, so you would apply this item to any legendary armour piece and it would be elevated to raid status. [spoiler]If people don't like that it can be applied to any legendary armour piece then maybe 4 distinct items would be better i.e. Helmet Upgrade, Chest Upgrade... You get the idea.[/spoiler]

                              Posting in language:

                               

                              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            • I like the word Dnozzle my aim today is to try and put that word I a sentence (yes im board at work right now), I'm happy I read the whole piece just for that word. thank you for the time it took to wright and post. oh and buy the way I like the ideas you have on the game concept of earning your gear.

                              Posting in language:

                               

                              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                            • I'm okay with either Transmogrification or this. For your idea, I was thinking that you should use strange coins instead. That way, people would have to make a difficult decision of whether to buy from Xur or upgrade armor. That way, all the stuff Xur has to sell will become less common. It'd make exotics feel more exotic in the end.

                              Posting in language:

                               

                              Play nice. Take a minute to review our Code of Conduct before submitting your post. Cancel Edit Create Fireteam Post

                              3 Replies
                              1 2 3 4 5 6 7
                              You are not allowed to view this content.
                              ;
                              preload icon
                              preload icon
                              preload icon