I started playing Xbox Live 9 years ago when the Dashboard was 3 panels, and if you weren't on Halo 2 you weren't on Xbox Live. I've played all the series' from call of duty, to gears of war, halo, bf, and the works around, I know that destiny has its flaws, so does every other game? I have never in all the games ever played on Xbox Live or in 9 years, more hate on a single release. Ever, it actually is mind blowing. And sad. I wonder if the average age of the average Xbox live gamer has changed? The game honestly isnt as bad as the forums indicate. Let's be honest real honest. Did the change in generation (younger men and women) just want more faster and quicker ? (Kids get bored with toys very quickly) just wish to see more constructive criticism. Not what seems to be little kids ruining the game for others just as much as bungie's flaws since their release.