{{
`${userDetail.user.displayName}${userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode ? `#${standardizeBungieGlobalCode(userDetail.user.cachedBungieGlobalDisplayNameCode)}` : ""}`}}
{{getUserClans()}}
3/13/2013 5:26:42 PM
260
Lawsuit to remove "In God We Trust" from currency
[url=http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/in-god-we-trust-lawsuit_n_2867227.html]Article[/url]
[quote]The Freedom From Religion Foundation mounted a lawsuit against the U.S. Treasury Department and other government officials this week, claiming that they are discriminating against nonbelievers by including the phrase "In God We Trust" on the nation's currency.
"Our government is prohibited from endorsing one religion over another but also prohibited from endorsing religion over nonreligion. The placement of a monotheistic ideal on our nation's currency violates this stricture and is therefore unconstitutional," FFRF Co-President Dan Barker said in a statement.
Along with 19 other plaintiffs, the FFRF argues in the lawsuit that they "are forced to proselytize -- by an Act of Congress -- for a deity they don't believe in whenever they handle money."[/quote]
I fully agree with this lawsuit. I think that it's pretty clear that printing "In God We Trust" on money violates the idea of separation of church and state. A secular entity should not be spreading the idea of trust in a deity (any deity), especially not through something that everyone has to use.
This idea is not anti-religious. It is the same principle as to why I don't learn about human anatomy in my Shakespeare class. It's not that there's anything wrong with learning about anatomy, that class just isn't the time or place for it. Something printed by the government is not the place to declare that "we" (whoever that refers to) "trust in" a deity, when that is not true in many cases.
-
1 ReplyI think it would be better to go after the national motto, which is "In God we trust" and go back to our original motto before Congress changed it in 1956 because of the scare of communism.
-
1 ReplyBut Freedom of Religion allows us to have "In God We Trust" on our currency. It's not forcing anyone to believe in God. This does not violate separation of church and state. Separation of Church and State was created so a church would never have power over the government. Like the Catholic church over the king of England during the founding or our country. Why do people not understand what Freedom of Religion means?
-
In America you have God on your currency In England we have Charlies mother-blam!-ing Darwin on our money
-
I support the removal of that silly slogan/motto.
-
2 RepliesThis does not violate the first amendment, the Government has freedom of speech too.
-
I always thought it was kind of clever, like America's economy was 'god' compared to every other nation. The 'trust' part is the pun that ties it together. Totally not the intention, but I've always found it funny. Remove it, leave it, I really don't care.
-
Actually this is indeed something that has always bothered me. People will say this is just a small thing that doesn't matter, but in reality, to me that is, it's like taking a step towards a bigger goal. Goal being the complete separation between the government and the church, which is something that i think would make this country greater as it could possibly move towards legalizing gay marriage country wide.
-
I seriously don't see how it's that big of a deal. So what if it says that? It's not harming anyone.
-
As long as I can still buy stuff I really don't care
-
1 Replyyou people do realize that its not the government who makes our currency right? its a private business that makes it...
-
If they do remove it don't say anything about it. Nobody will even notice and when they do you can tell them "man they took that out like a year ago"
-
17 RepliesIs not the Separation of Church and State a letter, not a law? You treat it as if it were one. I do not think the coins should have "In God We Trust" removed. Simply, there is nothing better to put there. Would you prefer nothing, or "In Humanity We Trust" ?
-
1 ReplyWow idiocy has no limits indeed
-
given that phrase only surfaced during the Red Scare I think we can let it go by now...or what...still too soon?? -_-
-
I'm a republican (to prevent future debate: NOT LIKE IN THE U.S.!) , should I be insulted because there is a picture of the queen on our national currency? To me this whole thing kinda feels like bashing the government for the sake of wanting something to whine about, but since I'm European I hardly understand Americans at all, so I'm not judging them for expressing their opinions...
-
9 RepliesAh, yes. As if there's nothing more important to deal with.
-
1 ReplyMost people who are religious just wont understand the opposition to it. I don't know how to phrase it, or what the technical term for it is. There's something about being a part of a small minority group, and having daily reminders about how you're an outcast and different, especially when it comes from the government.
-
I just use a sharpie to black out the words on my money.
-
2 RepliesSo, what happens if this case wins, does the U.S government have to recall all the money ever made, and then print out new notes, re-call every coin made, melt them down into new ones as well? Or will it just apply to any new money printed?
-
19 RepliesWow as if we need more problems. It's just 4 words. I think our Government has bigger issues to deal with as opposed to this small group of butthurt people who think that the Government is trying to convert them. I think it's a scam. This Foundation just wants money from the Government.
-
2 RepliesI don't know exactly when the In God We Trust thing came in, but if it was during the Framer's time, then it's likely they were speaking more about nature's God (like it says in the Declaration of Independence) than any other religious deity.
-
I never really saw a point for having it on the bill, does seem a little, odd, maybe wrong. But on the other hand if you're really offended by it I'm not really sure who's really being the problem maker here.
-
What they say is true, but these guys need to set their priorities straight. We have bigger problems at hand.
-
Edited by BerzerkCommando: 3/14/2013 5:31:08 PMDoes it bother me? No, but I feel they should move it. Why? Because of the whole separation between Church and state. Wasn't the whole point of that to prevent the lager religions from wiping out the smaller ones? By having "In God we trust" on the money the government is favoring some religions other the others.
-
3 RepliesEdited by Euler: 3/14/2013 11:09:23 AMIs a 4 word-phrase most Americans don't even regard when handling money even worth the trouble of revamping the minting process? Also, I believe that the 'wall of separation' between Church and state was coined to prevent the government interfering in religion.
-
I like this.
