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3/14/2013 5:47:12 PM
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Is not the Separation of Church and State a letter, not a law? You treat it as if it were one. I do not think the coins should have "In God We Trust" removed. Simply, there is nothing better to put there. Would you prefer nothing, or "In Humanity We Trust" ?
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Why put anything?
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Edited by Mad Max: 3/14/2013 6:01:30 PMIt looked just fine without any text there. That way, nobody's offended and nobody's toes are stepped on. And yes, "Separation of Church and State" is not a law, but the first amendment echoes the sentiment.
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Why are people offended if they see something like that though? Also, is it really worth it to recall and/or reprint all coins and cash when most of the US and the World is moving towards Credit Cards and credit?
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[quote]Why are people offended if they see something like that though?[/quote]Because it's a daily reminder that I'm a minority and outcast. It's also a reminder that the government is fine with violating our most important governing document. [quote]Also, is it really worth it to recall and/or reprint all coins and cash when most of the US and the World is moving towards Credit Cards and credit?[/quote]They wouldn't. This would just be for all newly minted coins and bills.
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[quote]I'm a minority and outcast[/quote]As opposed to those who need only look in a mirror to be reminded of the same. ROFL Rather selfish of you to be so concerned with your own first-world plight than the more serious problems of other, actual minorities, who have suffered actual discrimination against them, other than having to see a few nativity scenes in parks. :-/ WOE IS THE LIFE OF THE NON-BELIEVER <-- agnostic in TX of all places, doesn't feel like a minority or outcast; conclude Mad Max is doinitwrong.
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[quote]They wouldn't. This would just be for all newly minted coins and bills.[/quote] Well then all of that previous currency would still have it on it, and you would still be handling it for a good while. Therefore, you would still have tons of money with that printed on it floating around in the hands of tons of people. So would you really be fixing anything? Is it really that big of a deal for it to be on there? I am not saying this because I am a Christian, either. I am saying this because people are making a big deal out of something that is very small. Try worrying about real problems in the world for once.
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There's also bills from pre-"in god we trust" floating around there. Eventually they make their way out of circulation. These will, too. While yes, the words are still there on old money, it's comforting to know that the government has righted their mistake.
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Edited by RangerRick11: 3/14/2013 6:44:30 PMBut your original problem was that just seeing the words made you feel like an outcast. So if that is the case, then some of those old bills will still be floating around, and you will still run into those words. Therefore, the "mistake" will not be righted until all bills are out of circulation, and if you feel the way you do about the words, you will not be happy until they are all gone. Why do you let 4 words make you so upset anyway. That is the same as being insulted while a child and stewing over it for the remainder of your lifetime. It shouldn't be such a big deal. Unconstitutional or not, there are far more unconstitutional matters that need to be addressed before we worry about this small one.
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[quote]Why do you let 4 words make you so upset anyway[/quote]Because it violates the first amendment of our country's most important document. If it's not a big deal, let's get rid of it. Religion has no place on our currency. We're not a Christian nation.
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It's not that it would bother me if it were removed. My faith is in my God, not in words printed on my money. So I don't think it is a big deal. What I think is a big deal, is the fact that minorities think they are more important that majorities. We are equal.
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We are equal, so why is your God being put on my money?
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We are equal, so why should your opinion matter more than mine?
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Edited by Mad Max: 3/14/2013 7:58:45 PMit doesn't matter more than yours. you say we're equal, but you want special treatment from the government to have your religion endorsed on our currency, which violates the first amendment. Want equality? Either endorse ALL religions and deities on our currency, or none.
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You obviously didn't read my previous comment. I clearly said it wouldn't bother me if it were not on it. Not all Christians have take the same stand on this. I don't like it when people use the general label of "Christians" as if we all take the same stand on a subject. Just because a select few take a stand on something, doesn't mean the whole group takes a stand. A clear example of this is the large number of denominations there are in Christianity. Different takes on the same subject.
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Edited by Mad Max: 3/14/2013 8:10:37 PM[quote]You obviously didn't read my previous comment.[/quote]well, it's tough since you didn't answer my question and just made up an entirely different question. Our opinions are worth the same. Nobody's opinion matters more than another. The fact remains that the US is not a Christian nation, and currency that endorses are religion violates the first amendment. Everyone, regardless of religious affiliation, should have a problem with an unconstitutional act.
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"In God We Trust" How this makes you feel like an outcast I do not understand. In the First Amendment, it does say the Government should not favor one religion over another. But if "In God We Trust" were removed, it would show the favor of a minority over a majority. This would, in my opinion, show favoritism. BTW, The Government is STILL printing money? I know they have to, but the dollar is in the crapper already.
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Edited by Mad Max: 3/14/2013 6:37:20 PM[quote]But if "In God We Trust" were removed, it would show the favor of a minority over a majority[/quote]No, it would favor nobody. It shouldn't have any religious references on it. The US is not a Christian nation. [quote]BTW, The Government is STILL printing money? I know they have to, but the dollar is in the crapper already.[/quote]The government is always printing money. There are new coins and bills minted every year.
