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Edited by chattingmyth: 12/11/2015 2:24:23 AM
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To all Solbros (Sunbreakers)

[b]Note: If you take this as me trolling, then please -blam!- off. I am just tired of seeing all the QQ everywhere and people need to realize there is more than one way to play. [/b] Earlier this week the Sunbreaker got a tuning. Yes, [i]a tuning.[/i] When a Titan, I main Striker in Pvp and Defender in PvE, Sunbreaker when I felt like being lazy. If you are one of those people who say, "the entire got Subclass got nerfed this week" you are clearly a bad player. I will tell you what got nerfed: the Spam Hammer build of Forgemaster + Flameseeker + Immolation Fist/Explosive Pyre + Cauterize. If you used this build only, [i]you as a player got nerfed.[/i] The only things that did get nerfed that [b]are meaningful to the entire subclass[/b] are the damage reduction to Sunstrike and Cauterize. Now yes, Hammers as projectiles took a hit to speed, tracking, and radius, but all too often I am seeing all over the forums "Sunbreakers are dead" "Bungie killed my Titan". Frankly, I don't think you guys are realizing the full potential of the subclass. I will not talk PvE since that is a different story, but in respect to PvP Sunbreakers still have great neutral play ([u]neutral play[/u] - playing your character when their super is not active). I will below give explanations to Solbros neutral play, all of which you could see in your skill tree, to show you what you are ignoring. [b]Note II: I am not telling anyone to play any specific way. Just tell you to open your -blam!-ing eyes a bit.[/b] [i]Sunspot Build[/i] - Sunspots are areas of effect that may be created by your melee or super and progressively apply burn damage. Take this build for example: Thermal Grenade (use for area control) + Scorched Earth (Hammer creates Sunspots) + Thermal Vent (Sunstrike kills create Sunspots) + Explosive Pyre (Hammer kills cause targets to explode and chain solar burn) + Firekeeper (gain overshield and increase HoS duration when in a Sunspot) [b]Note III: Cauterize, like Fleeting Fire, states it activates on [i]kills by your fire[/i] meaning grenades, Sunstrike, or Hammers. It is not exclusive to Hammer of Sol.[/b] [i]Blaze Blitzs Build[/i] - Capitalize on passive abilities for survivability while preparing to ram through enemies. Use the following: Incendiary or Fusion Grenade (preference here) + Suncharge (press , to charge at targets and cause chain solar explosions) + Stoke the Fire (reduces Sunstrike cooldown and kills with Sunstrike instantly reduce cooldown) + Fleeting Fire (stackably increase agility and reload speed upon fire kills & boost to agility / recovery) + Cauterize (regen health upon fire kills) [b]Note IV:[/b] If you are a player who conserves their super, Simmering Flames will reduce your melee and grenade cooldown by half while your super is fully charged. [u]Final Point[/u] If you are still going to respond to this and tell me Sunbreakers are dead then please: either break your game disk or switch to the other Titan subclasses, I heard they got buffed. If you have some common sense, however, even if you don't like the subclass tuning you will realize that all that got nerfed was [b]one single playstyle[/b]. Good players will learn to adapt the Sunbreaker subclass to fit their game style. And great players will prove to you that even though their existing style gor nerfed, they can still pummel you into the ground. Thank you for reading. Hope this helps those struggling, hope the cryers break their disks, hope those still screaming "they deserved it!" shut the -blam!- up because it's over people. -[i]friendly neighborhood Thorny Guardian[/i]

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  • Thermal vent doesn't always proc, its very obviously broken and has been but yet that didn't get a fix when they tweaked the sun breakers. Bungie didn't seem to care when it hinders the class set up. Do you have any insight?

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    • Just because you can put random builds together doesn't mean they are good. Sunbreakers probably have the weakest neutral game of an subclass for pvp. You can spin it anyway you want but it's the truth.

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      • I've dicked so many sunbreakers with self rez the past couple days xD

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      • A Hunter, Titan, and Warlock are sitting at a table. The Titan, a Sunbreaker, is seriously wounded, and has a broken arm and leg. The Warlock, a Stormcaller, is in perfect health, and is sitting as calm as can be. The Hunter is pacing around the table, thinking deeply about what should be nerfed next. [b]Hunter:[/b] Let's see, I just got killed by a sniper... he must have been relying on that aim assist crutch! NERF SNIPER AIM ASSIST BUNGIE, OMFG!!!! [b]Warlock:[/b] Oh, will you just shut it already! Look at poor Jim over here. [i]Points at Titan.[/i] He can barely move from what your constant bickering did to him. [b]Titan:[/b] Need... super... energy... [b]Hunter:[/b] Don't even bother, Jim. Now you know how us Hunters, the master race, felt when you b*tched and complained about Bladedancers for a whole year. [b]Titan:[/b] Please... no more... nerfs... [b]Warlock:[/b] Okay, maybe the Sunbreaker was a little OP, but that doesn't mean every other piece of equipment in the damn game needs to be nerfed along with it! [b]Hunter:[/b] Oh crap! Bungie is about to buff auto rifles by... 7%! Oh no, that can't happen. [i]grabs phone.[/i] [b]Warlock:[/b] What the hell are you doing? [b]Hunter:[/b] Hey, Xur! I have a job for you. [b]Xur:[/b] It is my will to speak to you. [b]Hunter:[/b] You know that 7% buff to medium RoF Auto Rifles due this Tuesday? [b]Xur:[/b] I think the cells of this body are dying... [b]Hunter:[/b] Move the decimal point to the left a bit! [b]Xur:[/b] My will is not my own... [b]Hunter:[/b] [i]hangs up.[/i] Weird guy... well, I just prevented a possible OP weapon buff. What's next? Let's see, I forgot to mention something... was it handcannons? No, they got nerfed ages ago... Ah, yes, Stormcaller!! [b]Warlock:[/b] What the hell!? I'm perfectly balanced!!! [b]Hunter:[/b] THAT GUY JUST KILLED ME FROM WAY TOO FAR AWAY!!! IT'S SO OP!!! [b]Warlock:[/b] I'm not overpowered, what the hell is wrong with you? [b]Hunter:[/b] ANOTHER ONE JUST KILLED ME! WHY IS IT SO OP!!! [b]Warlock:[/b] Shut up! Please stop, Bungie might hear you! [b]Hunter:[/b] [i]pulls out megaphone[/i]. STORMTRANCE IS WAY TOO OVERPOWERED. PLEASE NERF THEM BUNGIE, NERF THEM!!! [i]The Titan, unnoticed to this point, suddenly turns from bright orange to light blue. His broken limbs heal themselves, and he stands up vigorously. [/i] [b]Hunter:[/b] Jim, did you just switch subcla- [i]drops megaphone.[/i] OH SH*T!! [i]The Titan shoulder-charges the Hunter, sending him flying into the wall.[/i] [b]Titan:[/b] YOU... WILL NOT... NERF... MY FRIEND!! [i]The Titan activates his Fist of Havoc, demolishing the Hunter, and the entire wall behind him.[/i] [b]Warlock:[/b] Why... why did you do that? [b]Titan:[/b] You don't know the pain I've been through these past few days. I - I don't want you to share the same fate. [i]The Hunter respawns next to the Titan.[/i] [b]Hunter:[/b] What the hell jus- wait, that was a Fist of Panic!!!! BUNGIE, NERF THE STRIKER! [b]Warlock:[/b] Their super wasn't even buffed, dipsh*t. [b]Hunter:[/b] I don't care!! THEY'RE SO OP!!! [b]Titan:[/b] What if everything you ever wanted... [b]Warlock & Hunter:[/b] ????? [b]Titan:[/b] WAS TO KICK SHIT IN THE FACE!? FOREVER! [b]Warlock:[/b] What in the hell are you talking about? [b]Titan:[/b] [b]THEN YOU NEED [u]PEREGRINE GREAVES!!![/u][/b] [i]Titan jumps in the air, then rams his knee into the Hunter's face.[/i] [b]Warlock:[/b] Why does he always brag about those damn things?

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        • The fact that you think sunbreakers have a "great" neutral game proves that you really don't know shit. Fleet fire is trash for pvp. Flame seeker is worthless in pvp. It barely tracked to begin with. The agility and regen bonus was what made it bareble to choose. Too bad they took that away as well. The subclass isn't dead. And the super is still very good. But the class as a whole was over nerfed. The only nerf it needed was the armor nerf. The fact that it got both an armor nerf and a cauterize nerf severely hurt the survivability of this subclass. Combined with Nerfing how strong the super was means they also hit its killing potential hard. Resulting in an overall nerf to the class. Which wasn't warranted in the slightest.

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          • Finally, someone who understands build variety. I've been running the area denial build for a while now, but I'll be sure to try the 'blitz' build sometime soon. Sounds like a real good time.

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            • You extreme defensiveness makes you come off as a jackass.

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              • I main a hunter. I switched to my sunbreaker after the tuning to see what changed. Seems pretty much the same, just easier to kill.

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              • Bad b8 m8, 1/8

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              • Conceited much? I don't need some forum warrior to tell me how to build my class. And if you play a Titan at all, you know some things are just broken. Half the time, my melee attacks, including shoulder charge, don't connect. The timer on regen is bs (no other class has that), and the tracking and velocity nerfs were massive overkill. I'll accept the armor nerf (though, frankly, it wasn't really needed. None of it was), but there are some definite issues here, and you're just perpetuating the problem if you go around acting like it's all good.

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                • Titan master race !

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