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10/23/2014 3:14:04 AM
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Philosophical thread!

So I was wondering... How do I know that you're a real person? How do I know that I'm not in a dream right now. If anybody can prove to me that they're real then I will stop thinking this way, but until then...

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  • To be, is to be perceived.

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  • I am real because how "real" is defined is "a culmination of perceptions based on the five senses". You read that, therefore i am real. :) I typed it. I heard the clicks, I thought of the smell of the page I read that from. I tasted the food stuck in my teeth as my tongue flicked at them while I typed. I am real, as are you. And we are, all of us, imperfect. :)

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    • Edited by E8ght: 10/24/2014 4:04:36 AM
      He who has not performed oral pleasure on another male cannot fully appreciate oral pleasure on himself.

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      • Better question. . . What is 'real', really?

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        • The only thing to fear is fear itself

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        • Because I know I'm real and in asking the same question about you.

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        • Theory of the universe. (Complete troll). The Big Bang was a giant for cob exploding. It would be pretty cool to know we're cosmic popcorn.

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        • yeah

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          • What if the meaning of life was to ponder on the meaning of life?

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          • Necro

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            Do you want the Augustine answer or the Descartes answer?

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          • Because when you die here you don't wake up

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          • I have a penis

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          • I love philosophy! Especially metaphysics. Bump.

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          • All you can know for sure is whether or not you exist. Everything else is just an educated guess built on other educated guesses. Like trying to prove math without using math.

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            • Edited by splattherpunk: 10/26/2014 9:37:03 AM
              I had to write a paper on euthanasia in college. It was a philosophy course. It was not easy. I think what I read on 99.99% of these posts is a bunch of nonsense.

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            • I am an existential nihilist. I pity those of you who think otherwise.

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              La-Le-Lu-Le-Lo

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            • Edited by Prometheus25: 10/26/2014 6:20:14 AM
              If our interaction with our world is solely the result of billions to trillions of electro-chemical reactions and patterns, then a "false" reality being "fed" into our brain would still be true and completely valid. If you took one person sitting in a room and a second person having their synaptic patterns being forced to mimic that of a person sitting in the same room, both person's perceived realities would be entirely identical and thus entirely valid and true. I like to think of it mathematically. If, given a, b is equal to c (in other words, b(a) = c), then a second equation, with the exact same assumptions and constraints as the first (the second equation is in the same "reality" of the first), if b is determined to equate to c, then the input to that equation must be a. Our realities are the manifestations of our senses of our environment. If a theoretical being is said to truly exist in the same reality as we perceive ourselves to be, it would have the same neural impulses as we do (removing fluctuations for personal experiences and all that). If that theoretical consciousness has no additional data, factors, or attributes that make it's assuredly true perceptions of it's reality more true, than our reality is equally as valid as the reality experienced by a truly existing being, meaning we are just as extant as can be.

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            • Edited by Cultmeister: 10/25/2014 3:39:10 PM
              Your thoughts, feelings and experiences create who you are, therefore the two worlds (inside and outside) can only exist together. If your mind exists, then the world that created it must also exist. If the world that created your mind doesn't exist, then neither can your mind. Could your brain be being fed false information? Sure, it's possible that this is all fake, but you must then accept that if your outside world is fake then so is your inside world. You are only as real as the perceived environment that created you; no more no less.

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              • Edited by Adminastrator: 10/26/2014 4:46:26 AM
                Maybe I wasn't meant to... Adminastrate. *tear slowly rolls down the side of my face as I realize that what I have tried so hard to accomplish was not my true calling

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                • Sometimes I think I'm living in someone's dream and am just waiting for them to wake up.

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                • Edited by The Cellar Door: 10/26/2014 3:49:03 AM
                  Already posted different things in here, but might aswell again. Recently reread Call of Cthulhu, here's the first paragraph, mind you written in 1926: [quote]“The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents. We live on a placid island of ignorance in the midst of black seas of infinity, and it was not meant that we should voyage far. The sciences, each straining in its own direction, have hitherto harmed us little; but some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new dark age."[/quote]

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                  • Cogito ergo sum. You can't

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                  • I had thought up this one test once to determine if people were real: play them in a game of chess. If you struggle to play against them, then they're probably real, because, from what I've observed, only a different person can provide that level of mental stimulation, something that playing against some other part of your own mind cannot create. Have you ever tried playing a game of chess against yourself? You know every move you'll make and every strategy employed; but that isn't so against other people, whose "minds" you cannot see through. So if other people seem like pretty good chess players (at least compared to you), then they're probably real.

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                    • How do we know that we arent in a mental asylum and this is all just us goin wacko. And that in reality physics works nothing like this

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