I agree with pretty much everything you have said. I am really enjoying the game. But, and please really consider this. The game was not marketed to you. This game was marketed to teenagers. This game has giant stand ups in Target where children can harass their parents into purchasing it. If the game was made for you and I, then they should not have marketed it to children and teenagers. It is an exploitative practice. You said you have family well imagine you were a parent of a teenager but you were not a gamer and did not know much about games. Lets say this teenager has a part time job or a paper route, lets say that this teenager has enough disposable income for four games per year. The game is marketed to them, the game is rated for them, but the game is (as you say) not made for them. What then? If a game was marketed to you, and for you, if the ad campaign was tailored to your expectations and the ads were in places you would be expected to frequent but when you got it home it turned out it was a children's game that couldn't hold your interest but the game cost 25% of your annual entertainment budget. Wouldn't you perhaps be a little bothered? And what would be your likely emotional response if a teenager came up to you and said "I feel bad for you. This game wasn't made for you. It was made for us." Thank you for considering this.

Uh huh. I agree. The expectation that you should be able to play for 70+ hours a week and still have fresh and new stuff to do is ridiculous. Equally ridiculous is the idea that after playing a game for 200+ hours that you're somehow entitled to a refund.

THINGS I WOULD RATHER DO THAN PLAY DESTINY: 1.) Jam toothpicks under my toenails and drop kick bowling balls 2.) Jump off a really tall building and land on a bike with no seat 3.) Eat an entire bowl of my roomates scab collection instead of my usual morning cornflakes 4.) Slurp rancid tuna salad out of my own butthole 5.) Rub one out with a cheese grater in a wading pool of lemon juice and margarita salt 6.) Insert a glass rod into my d!ck and then smash it with a hammer 7.) Slide down razor wire crotch first 8.) Run naked backwards through a cornfield anyone got anything else they would like to add? =)™

So you are the "casual gamer" I've heard about so much. From all of us gamers out there, thank you for ruining games for the rest of us. I bet you own a wii as well?

i mean no offense but if the game was meant for you then bungie needs to get out of the gaming business for a while and try to catch the elusive clue cause they missed the sweet spot for profit and for success.

You are what's wrong with the gaming industry today. You don't give a shit about the quality of your games.

I appreciate that opinion and I think that is a completely valid way of looking at things. If this game works for you that's great. And I completely understand the perspective of not having the time of day to play, heck between marriage and a full time job things get hectic (not even looking at having kids yet lol). However, I do want to point out that for a company the best bet is to target everyone, and I'd like to pose a way to give you the experience you want as well as everyone else: [b]1. I don't care so much about story. Sure, a good story is cool but I'm more interested in game play and having fun. [/b] As someone who plays a LOT of fighting games I totally get this. Story is not always needed to have a good time, but from Bungie its kind of expected. Add plot and a functioning skip button. Take a page from From Soft and the Souls series and let the landscape, player initiated NPC dialogues and item descriptions fill in the blanks. [b]2. I love the fact that there's a limit to how many bounties, marks, etc you can get in a week. There's always something to do when I log on but I don't feel like I have to play constantly to keep up with the hardcores.[/b] I completely agree with this. Especially when you plan to set a pace for the lifespan of a game doing this is needed and its nice to not feel like you are REALLY far behind people. [b]3. I never played games on-line before and Destiny convinced me to start. I already have a small circle of on-line friends that is growing all the time. [/b] Welcome to Online Gaming! Hope you enjoy your stay :D [b]4. I don't give a rats about PvP[/b] The kicker here is that Bungie has done a solid job with PvP and if you're looking for a quick bit of gaming when things get too hectic this may be a good way to go. It's very no committal which can be a nice quick respite from an otherwise busy day. But it's not everyone's cup of tea. It would be great to see more single player content. Story missions sure, but following the above idea of skip-able plot would be great, there is a lot of space with not a lot happening so it would be nice to see it fleshed out more. [b]5. I don't feel like there's a rush to get to lvl 30. I have been 28 for a while and haven't even really tried a raid yet. My goal is to get good at raids by the end of November so I can be close to 30 when the DLC drops. [/b] Again completely agree, they really did focus on pacing. The sad thing for many people is that even with low play times the recycled areas/quests/dungeons can be a bit old, and I don't even mean from a grinding perspective. I just mean if you try to do a couple random dungeons and get stuck with the same one 2-3 times in a row. It kind of sucks and leaves me feeling like their should be more variety. If nothing else make the boss fights more than focus boss - hide - reload - clear wave of trash - repeat (I know this comes off as really vague, but in a world with as much creativity as there is they could have incorporated vehicles, turrets, special "event" weaknesses, etc. to keep things fresh. [b]6. The game is just plain fun to play. Sure It's repetitive but there's always something to work towards - and enough progress to keep it satisfying. [/b] If fun to you means working towards a set of gear, a new weapon, a new level, then you are in the right place lol. If you haven't played Diablo give it a shot sometime it's a blast. But, if you do pay attention to how they reward players, how you may still be playing in the same areas to get sweet loot or obtain a higher level, they keep the experience fresh. They give you way more reward for the time you invest (referring to Diablo just to clarify). All in all I don't think saying Destiny is a bad game is a fair statement. It isn't. It just doesn't live up to the potential it COULD have, it could be so much more and that, personally, is why I have an issue with it. And in time it may live up to its potential. Either way I do hope you enjoy your time playing and have fun! At the end of the day its a game there to entertain right?

Definatly either a bungie mole, or deej on another account.

How I read the title I have more money than sense.