From what I noticed there are a ton of people that hate on the Crota primaries, there are also tons of people who love them but I'm focusing on the negative right now. People complain that the Crota primaries aren't as great as they perhaps should be . Lets see what people usually say... keep in mind this is off the top of my head and its usually just a bunch of repeats . 1 Abyss Defiant- This weapon has a high rof and really low impact I really expected better . Not only that but the unique perks on it rely on RNG you can't always get wizards stunned. The VoC does more damage for crying out loud and it's also full auto. My Response: Yes the Abyss Defiant does have a high RoF and low impact but some people (not me) like that which is why there is a hip fire perk on the gun... for the people who like that sort of fire rate. There is also the perk Focused Fire which acts kind of like the suros and makes the gun perform really well for those of us who dont like high RoF and low impact. If this weapon had a 100% chance to stun wizards that would super -blam!-ing op and don't say no because it already destroys wizards ... I know I have it.You really cant compare the VoC and the Abyss Defiant , why? Because one is a scout and one is a auto rifle and yes the VoC has the full auto perk but it does not shoot at the speed of an auto rifle. If anything I believe the abyss defiant has a higher dps than the VoC . (relying on auto fire perks and saying they are godlike and make it an autorifle is absolutely moronic just because you cant pull a trigger) If you compare this to Atheons Epilogue , the Abyss Defiant shits on it. 2 Oversoul Edict- Wow this is just a praedyths timepiece but you can shoot through knight walls. It really doesnt do a lot of damage does it? It's a high rof low impact pulse rifle. My response: It really doesnt feel or act like the timepiece in any way imo. Believe it or not this pulse rifle does way more damage than any other pulse rifle I've come across which i find strange due to its low impact... either way this weapon is actually great and does a lot and I mean A LOT of damage for being a pulse rifle. 3. Fang of ir yut- Wow the fang of ir yuts marking perk isn't like wallhacks I can't mark someone out and know where they are all the time this weapon is automatically garbage because of the letdown. It doesnt have autofire like my overrated VoC and that makes my VoC better nevermind the fact that the autofire perk is buggy. Why would you get this ? It does arc damage who needs arc damage when you have the fatebringer. My response: Well tbh I was rather dissapointed that this weapon wasnt a wallhacks 420 blaze it up i have no skill i -blam!-ed your mom because this weapon is allmighty kind of weapon with that perk , but hey it's still a great weapon. The spray and play perk makes up for the unique perk on it because you reload super fast when your mag is empty. Autofire is cool for those who dont use scout rifles and cant pull a trigger but you know else doesnt have autofire and is considered a great weapon ...? [b]Fatebringer[/b]... [i]Le Gasp[/i]. If you prefer the fatebringer fine whatever the fatebringer is still a cool weapon but for those people who like versatility and scout rifles this is amazing . I prefer fang of ir yut to VoC and Fatebringer any day get at me . Also 331 damage in comparison to 300 boom. 4. Word of crota - Wow really this weapon that was so hyped up doesn't have firefly on it ? Garbage. It has a low impact stat ? Garbage . It does void damage? Garbage why would we need void. Fatebringer> WoC anyday. The white nail perk is on it but it doesnt refill the whole mag? what a waste. My response: firefly is great but honestly every weapon cant be the same. Low impact stat but great rate of fire and it feels very solid c: . Void damage... you guys realize that the hive use void right ...? If anything I question why solar is on some of the weapons since none of the hive use solar weapons or attacks. Also a Void weapon such as the atheons epilogue and this weapon here are great for nightfalls why ? Because 1. void burns 2. -blam!-ing psions. 3. Minotaurs. I would much rather use my WoC rather than atheons epilogue anyday "But you just stated before that you can't compare weapons of different categories !" .... shit you got me, well.... it adds versatility to your weapon pool you can use the AE if you like high rof auto rifles and you can choose WoC if you like hand cannons there fixed that . Fatebringer is also not that great in comparison the WoC why ? Because the WoC has a higher attack stat and higher rof " But Potato its been shown that the fatebringer only does something like 10 less damage to enemies!" ... you do realize what you said right ? less damage.... and it has a lower rof well shit I must be stupid AF not to choose fatebringer. the white nail perk is meh at best for WoC but if it was like black hammer it would be op. In conclusion I want to say I love all of the raid weapons and the unique perks brought to the- wait what ...? You're telling me that its only the crota weapons that have true unique perks to them ? Well I'll be damned . Regardless I still love most of the raid weapons that are brought to us (-blam!- atheons epilogue and the preadyths timepiece ). All the weapons are different and unique in their own way , isn't that what the community asked for ? Imagine what the forums would do if these weapons were just copies of the Vault weapons . We would all lose our -blam!-ing minds. Edit 1 : Tried to make it cleaner and more readable ... don't know if I did that well. Also GIVE THEM A CHANCE cx Edit 2 : Wow I made a trending topic C: thanks for the support and debate everyone I like seeing everyones opinion and being able to pit my opinions against other people remember nothing is fact and these weapons are not the best they are just great reliable weapons with elemental damage and you have to give them a chance