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7/1/2008 6:42:07 PM
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The Only BR/AR Thread

Due to the incessant amount of spam and repeat posting about the topic of the design of the Battle Rifle and the Assault Rifle in Halo 3, all threads about these topics will be locked on sight and the author warned (then banned if they keep doing it). Please discuss the BR and AR and your thoughts in this thread and this thread alone. For reference, Bungie's response to all comments and complaints about the design of the Battle Rifle can be found [url=/News/content.aspx?type=topnews&cid=14347] in the weekly update for June 20th, 2008[/url]. People expecting further Bungie responses on the issue are likely to be disappointed. [Edited on 09.20.2009 10:15 PM PDT by x Foman123 x]
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    While I can destroy with a DMR in Reach I still prefer my BR. With my BR in Halo 3 playlists like BTB are actually fun b/c as a ground unit I can get more kills than a guy in a warthog. In Reach the DMR just doesn't pack enough to get consecutive kills like the BR can. Also the fact that a lot of maps in BTB Reach barely have any DMR's unlike in Halo 3 there are plenty of spawn points for the BR.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] Shadow Wolf7347l [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tapeworm rage BR > DMR[/quote]You are 100% correct sir.[/quote] fixed

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  • bigg fan of the BR =)!!!D.M.R sucks

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  • The BR is a very good gun, but i would say the AR is better at alot of finshing move tactic's.

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  • SMG = cooler than AR

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  • 1 mirrion % BR>DMR & also H3>Reach [Edited on 10.29.2010 2:19 PM PDT]

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] tapeworm rage BR > DMR[/quote]No.

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  • BR > DMR

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] lilmanjr why did you -blam!-nuts not put a BR in reach? Why is there Bloom? Why are there armor abilities any decent game maker knows that slowing down gameplay is a terrible idea but yet you have armor lock and camo which encourage players to hide and bring the game to a complete standstill. Oh and the dumb ranking system, All it does is encourage players to play for themselves and not care about winning. Ill be damned if im gonna help my teammate out and die in the process screwing over my k/d. But if there was a ranking system I would have an incentive to help my teammate because I would want to win and progress in rank. Campaign suffered multiple canon breaches and I honestly just think you guys didnt try at all with this one. Overall It gets a 4.5 just for forge alone which could have been better if you would have made a FLAT BOX that forgers have been asking for for years and the dumb monotonous silver pieces everywhere are really dumb. Other than that forge is the only cool thing about reach congratulations you fail.[/quote] this is why we can't have nice things.

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  • why did you -blam!-nuts not put a BR in reach? Why is there Bloom? Why are there armor abilities any decent game maker knows that slowing down gameplay is a terrible idea but yet you have armor lock and camo which encourage players to hide and bring the game to a complete standstill. Oh and the dumb ranking system, All it does is encourage players to play for themselves and not care about winning. Ill be damned if im gonna help my teammate out and die in the process screwing over my k/d. But if there was a ranking system I would have an incentive to help my teammate because I would want to win and progress in rank. Campaign suffered multiple canon breaches and I honestly just think you guys didnt try at all with this one. Overall It gets a 4.5 just for forge alone which could have been better if you would have made a FLAT BOX that forgers have been asking for for years and the dumb monotonous silver pieces everywhere are really dumb. Other than that forge is the only cool thing about reach congratulations you fail.

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  • i reckon your just a crap shot lol

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  • the BR is similar to the M16A4 from mw2 (just wait i <3 halo 3 ;D ) and the assault rifle or AR is similar to the ACR from the same game. if you spread wildly, go for the Assault rifle. if you like accuracy more, then go for the Battle Rifle. Simple as that.

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  • do you know how to unlock the maps in custom games because i havent got all the levels like foundry etc

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] TinPinKing19 Ok, The BR: Pros: Can't think of any Cons: 1. Bullet Travel ruins it in Halo 3, (thanks to the stupid community who complained about getting killed across the map in Halo 2, so then Sage decided to nerf it) 2. At LONG range, none of the bullets register 3. At MEDIUM range, it takes about 6-7 headshots to kill 4. At CLOSE range, it takes about 4 headshots to kill, (does this make ANY sense?!?) 5. The gun just doesn't sound good at all, sounds like a toy gun rather than a real gun. 6. Body-shots do NOTHING. Ok, the AR: Pros: 1. It is a perfect short-medium range gun 2. Good enough accuracy Cons: 1: Takes almost an entire clip at mid-range 2: Is only an amazing weapon at close-range. 3: A little too over-powered at close-range. Now let me rant about other weapons, The Magnum: Pros: 1. Absolutely nothing Cons: 1. 6 headshots to kill, (what else to say?) 2. Short fire rate, 3. Hard to use at close-range 4. Only good to use to pop a headshot after weakening the shields, (oh wait, you die because it takes too long to pull out) My question? These are the three MAIN weapons of Halo 3, why make them suck? It urges people to use power weapons instead, which birthes campers, which ruin matchmaking. Halo: Reach weapon discussion (from the beta) The AR: Pros: 1. Great weapon, always used it for medium to short range kills. 2. It sounded like a REAL gun, 3. It went perfect for a beat-down right after kill, 4. Nice reticle Cons: 1. It is a little like an SMG, (accuracy) The DMR: Pros: 1. Great LONG-RANGE WEAPON, 2. Bullet Travel isn't a factor 3. Reticle Bloom makes it much easier and fun to use, 4. Great for Headshots Cons: 1. A LITTLE too long of a wait between shots, enemies can run away at medium to short range. 2. Has a little recoil 3. Always took an entire clip to kill somebody. The new Magnum Pistol: Pros: 1. Scope, 'nuff said 2. A fun weapon to use, Cons: 1. From my POV, a little over-powered, maybe not, but the fire rate was a little high, just a little. 2. Could have used as a primary weapon rather than a side arm, 3. Found myself using it more than the Assault Rifle Melee System: Halo 3: Results in double beat-downs most of the time, Halo: Reach: More fast-paced action packed meleeing, took more skill to use. A thing to say, Reach's three main weapons WORKED, and I rarely encountered campers and/or power-weapon whores. That is all I have to say.[/quote] This is total crap. Not one thing you said has been true besides how -blam!- the magnum was in H3. Maybe you should learn how to use the BR instead of pretending its because the gun doesn't work. It's down to player skill. Just because you've noticed a tiny problem with a gun doesn't mean bungie will instantly change it to make your life easier. L2P with the weapons you're given bro.

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  • [quote][b]Posted by:[/b] goofenhour You were the best weapon of all time, but Your life was sadly cut short. RIP BR. 2004-2010[/quote] I disagree

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  • You were the best weapon of all time, but Your life was sadly cut short. RIP BR. 2004-2010

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  • I don't believe its the strength of the Assault Rifle thats the problem. The clip size seems to be a problem. you have to end up switching to your other weapon, whatever it may be for the kill. (If im not mistaken the clip size used to be 60?) I understand that some weapons aren't designed to kill opponents on their own but the Assault Rifle is supposed to be one of them that you can use if you respawn with that weapon alone. Instead, your hunting on a map for an alternative.

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  • I like the halo reach assault rifle the best and the halo 2 battle rifle the best

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  • wow this is really very very very good

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  • BR is great

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  • No, the BR & AR are fine as they are, but i bet they will patch it just to remove people from the Halo 3 scene, you wait n see.

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  • the br is my second faverot weapon next sniper

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  • The Br needs to be fixed bullets lag and it can cheat you, and the Ar needs to be stronger.

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  • I believe an SMG is better at the effective range of a shotgun...any further and its basically spraying bullets everywhere...AR is better if your outside of that range... at least thats what i believe

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  • Is it just me, or is a single SMG or Spiker better than an Assault Rifle? I'm pretty sure one SMG is better, but I don't know about a Spiker.

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