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12/22/2014 12:38:50 PM
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Has Anyone At Bungie Ever Fired A Weapon?
I've been inspecting the weapons Destiny has to offer since its release, and I've noticed three recurring archetypes for Automatic Rifles: High Imact/Medium Fire Rate Rifles, Low Impact/ High Fire Rate Rifles, and Very Low Impact/ Very High Fire Rate Rifles.
Along with this, I've noticed that there is a recurring pattern of Stability involved with each of the Auto Rifle archetypes.
It seems that the [i]higher[/i] the Impact of the Rifle, the [i]higher[/i] the Stability.
Now, this also relates to Rate of Fire, though I'll save that for later.
Since all of these weapons operate on conventional technology, that is, bullets, that means that the [i]higher[/i] the Impact, the [i]bigger[/i] the round being fired.
To fire bigger rounds, you need more motive, gunpowder, otherwise you'd be moving the round at much slower speeds, therefore sacrificing Impact.
More gunpowder means [i]more[/i] motive, and for every [i]action[/i] there is an equal and opposite [i]reaction[/i]; that [i]reaction[/i] is what we call Recoil.
So, the [i]bigger[/i] the round, the greater the reaction, which means more Recoil.
Why is it that weapons like the Suros Regime and Shadow Price fire such high Impact rounds with [i]no[/i] Recoil, while Rifles like the Hard Light and Monte Carlo fire such a small round and suffer [i]ridiculous[/i] Recoil?
It should be the exact opposite!
*As for Rate of Fire, I've drawn an analogy to spare you the unnecessarily long explanation: a Socom-14, a deviation of the popular M-14 Rifle platform, fires the 7.62mm, which is our real-life High Impact Rifle, a few rounds go off in quick succession and its barrel jumps from the center of a red-bull's eye to the highest of its rings. An AR-15 fires the smaller 5.56mm, our real-life Medium Impact Rifle, and its barrel jumps from the bull's eye's center to the ring just above. The recoil has even less effect when firing something like a PX2, a submachine gun since it fires a pistol round, the 9mm, making it our real-life Very Low Impact Rifle.
So, why did Bungie purposefully re-arrange these real-life Impact/RoF/Stability correlations for their designs?
Not only are they inaccurate, it completely skews the balance of the game, making the Suros and its High Impact associates top-notch, and weapons like the Hard Light and Monte Carlo completely unusable!
TL;DR: High Impact weapons should have [i]greater[/i] Recoil than Low Impact weapons even when factoring in Rate of Fire. Low Impact/High RoF weapons are unusable thanks to this deliberately inaccurate design.
Bring balance to the game, Bungie!
- Sincerely, someone who wants to like the Hard Light
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4 RepliesEdited by Demodog2112: 12/23/2014 6:31:03 PMThis is only partially accurate. High ROF weapons can have more recoil and barrel climb than weapons with a lower ROF and larger rounds/caliber. This all depends on things like barrel length, rifling (and how tight that rifling is), type of powder being used and buffer springs and compensators. Not to mention more gun powder doesn't always equate to rounds leaving the weapon at higher speeds. Velocity/FPS of a round leaving a weapon is an expression of a number of differing factors. Such as, but not limited too: Quality of the powder being used, length of barrel, Flash suppressors, type of operating system the weapon uses, rifling etc. A good example of this are SMG's that fire pistol rounds. The same round fired from an SMG has a higher fps velocity than the same round fired from a pistol. Why? Length of the barrel for starters. It's long been established that longer barrels = longer burn times for powder. Longer burn times = more of the potential energy from the gunpowder being translated into kinetic energy transferred to the round being fired. This is ballistics 101. You should also look at weapons like the Thompson SMG and say, the M1911A1. Why? The Thompson operates on Blowback while the M1911A1 is gas operated. They fire the exact same round, but the Thompson has very high recoil. Why? My experience with firearms was learned in the School of Hard Knocks... the U.S.M.C. Edit: This was in response to the O.P. not BDSKiller.
