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Lol, these updates are always plagued by the a seemingly endless blight of (mostly) comments irrelevant to the topic at hand. Same story with all my most played games: Destiny, Battlefield 4, Dragon age, inqusition. I can't find relaxation and enjoyment from fellowship and convo with other players via online message boards without seeing just annoying complaining and demands from other disgruntled players. Who, by the way...will drive themselves insane for weeks trying to play a game that they aren't enjoying. pvp disconnects 30 secnds after starting every time, no matter what? and theyve been trying to connect over and over for weeks, alll this customer service waiting on hold, adjusting settings....and i feel for them, i do. but, hang the hat up. im not wealthy whatsoever. So, be smart. if the top 3 most likely fixes fail, return it within 7 days. past that, JUST trade it in. with Battlefield 4, every mssg was "FIX IT FIX IT. game is brokennnn." gawd, cant i just discuss recoil technicals without seeing my fav past time be denounced every 3 seconds? MY GAME wasnt broken. People complaining about destiny having connection issues? Mine doesnt. Never has. (only rare exceptions). Neither has Battlefield 4. actually, 98.6% of the time, its a problem on the player's end. I dont want to read THESE BIG ANNOYING "IM BREAKING UP WITH YOU, DESTINY!" messages!!!!!! NOBODY CARES IF IF YOU ARE UPSET. GO TO TECH SUPPORT. THOSE PEOPLE CARE. But as far as DISCUSSING IT...not interested, It amazes me!!!! if you are unhappy, just vanish. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with this...i remember how i used to feel when it happened to me when i was alot younger. But, if it makes you so angry, you need to take a nice long break away from videogames for awhile, trust me. Bungie cares, but they aren't really calling the shots. Or reading these comments. AT ALL. Bungie is working on the next project. Those who aren't, wtf r they gonna do? dlc #2 for free? comon! DLC is nothng new. I rarely buy them out of principle. I cannot believe you people are not over the hype yet. I know it hurts to find out, but these companies exist to make money. Fools. MONEY. Fortunatley, These companies compete for OUR support, sales. So, the lowest prices, best products get all the girls. When your expectations are soooo skyhigh, NOTHING would have satisfied you. We thought, "oh, bungie, makers of mona lisa of gaming....published by massive AAA publisher." ...Then, all the hype/ads. it was PERFECT storm. and look...broke RECORDS for most sales. basically, REVENUE. hhaha, people make these big announcements how they onkly want "money"...uhmmmm durrrr no shyt! obv dude. same with hosptitals, insurance, so many. They arent artists who create games. Listen, There are so many kids who want to be "game makers" without realizing that theyll be quitting before they learn binary, or their first line of code. we know so little about how it TRULY works, some people sound soooo ignorant. Have you not noticed the same tone of appeasement? How they are politely saying "SHUTTTT UPPP, we can only do what our bosses demand of us, and our boss is NOT YOU." They must be so tired of the slanderous ignorant diction from children. *** Bungie made Halo with a core group of unknown, unproven develpers. Nobody bothered them, they just made something from love. THEY GOT LUCKY and stumbled upon a battle engine that was amazing and fun. (like halflife engine). its used and re-used...even in destiny. But, what else are they capable of? It's like, if you denied them that engine, and start from scratch, itd be another avg game. Hey, most devs NEVER even find that chemistry. we should have been more skeptical, it was a new thing. new dicttaorship publisher. You see, kids. it is just like in music. Everyone know Greenday? alright, well...greenday made their best music (which is the case with 99% of any music group) BEFORE they are signed to a MAJOR label. They were signed from very early on, but by local and small publishers. Why need a publisher like bungie needs activision? ...because at the end of the day, if your job is making art, you need funds to promote, produce, etc. that artwork to maximize its success. did early greenday as teenagers, all stoned and playing punkrock hav the money themselves to grow? even to produce cds...the most basic investment, requires a "deal with the devil." Totally uninfluenced art in its purest is great (THAT is why the first few albums of bands are always better, they arent yet mainstream.) But, if you become a "sellout." then, the soul of the product is lost in the sake of money. Truth? These big production companies: EA, Activision, etc, etc...THEY are only focused on money. They didnt make the game, they dont care what it is, as long as it has the most earning potential. obvious to us older players, of course. But, the part that alot of you arent grasping is... Onceyou sign with one of the big-name companies, you also sign with a big-name cash check. The downide is (and he reason why bands turn to gabage once they sign with a big label) is that YOU as a developer, no longer have any say on how your own art is made. really. They know what you can do, they paid you all that cash. so they own you....They have a list and formula of what their reserchers have concluded to be the best ways to maximize profit, and it generally means widening target audience, to maximize potential buyers. So, open world is in? gota be open world. Dont like chopping up the game to be sold later as DLC? tough! itll make us more money. Bungie has more resources, but no creative freedom. THAT is the key. freedom but no resources? or resources but no artistic freedom? Guys, think. If you have already BOUGHT THE GAME. Why would activision authorize manpower (which costs money to them) to make you feel better about a game you already bought? Theyve moved on, moneys been made, theyre looking onto the next. wanan feel better? learn. nextime, keep it in your pants and skip the midnight release. wait a damn day and see if the game is good, i save myseklf all the time by doing that. Oh, and dont listetn to machinima....those guys are total morons. sorry, they are. nothign worse than an elitist "gamer." who thinks hes the final authority on a whole subject.
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  • [quote]Lol, these updates are always plagued by the a seemingly endless blight of (mostly) comments irrelevant to the topic at hand. Same story with all my most played games: Destiny, Battlefield 4, Dragon age, inqusition. I can't find relaxation and enjoyment from fellowship and convo with other players via online message boards without seeing just annoying complaining and demands from other disgruntled players. Who, by the way...will drive themselves insane for weeks trying to play a game that they aren't enjoying. pvp disconnects 30 secnds after starting every time, no matter what? and theyve been trying to connect over and over for weeks, alll this customer service waiting on hold, adjusting settings....and i feel for them, i do. but, hang the hat up. im not wealthy whatsoever. So, be smart. if the top 3 most likely fixes fail, return it within 7 days. past that, JUST trade it in. with Battlefield 4, every mssg was "FIX IT FIX IT. game is brokennnn." gawd, cant i just discuss recoil technicals without seeing my fav past time be denounced every 3 seconds? MY GAME wasnt broken. People complaining about destiny having connection issues? Mine doesnt. Never has. (only rare exceptions). Neither has Battlefield 4. actually, 98.6% of the time, its a problem on the player's end. I dont want to read THESE BIG ANNOYING "IM BREAKING UP WITH YOU, DESTINY!" messages!!!!!! NOBODY CARES IF IF YOU ARE UPSET. GO TO TECH SUPPORT. THOSE PEOPLE CARE. But as far as DISCUSSING IT...not interested, It amazes me!!!! if you are unhappy, just vanish. I'm sorry you had a bad experience with this...i remember how i used to feel when it happened to me when i was alot younger. But, if it makes you so angry, you need to take a nice long break away from videogames for awhile, trust me. Bungie cares, but they aren't really calling the shots. Or reading these comments. AT ALL. Bungie is working on the next project. Those who aren't, wtf r they gonna do? dlc #2 for free? comon! DLC is nothng new. I rarely buy them out of principle. I cannot believe you people are not over the hype yet. I know it hurts to find out, but these companies exist to make money. Fools. MONEY. Fortunatley, These companies compete for OUR support, sales. So, the lowest prices, best products get all the girls. When your expectations are soooo skyhigh, NOTHING would have satisfied you. We thought, "oh, bungie, makers of mona lisa of gaming....published by massive AAA publisher." ...Then, all the hype/ads. it was PERFECT storm. and look...broke RECORDS for most sales. basically, REVENUE. hhaha, people make these big announcements how they onkly want "money"...uhmmmm durrrr no shyt! obv dude. same with hosptitals, insurance, so many. They arent artists who create games. Listen, There are so many kids who want to be "game makers" without realizing that theyll be quitting before they learn binary, or their first line of code. we know so little about how it TRULY works, some people sound soooo ignorant. Have you not noticed the same tone of appeasement? How they are politely saying "SHUTTTT UPPP, we can only do what our bosses demand of us, and our boss is NOT YOU." They must be so tired of the slanderous ignorant diction from children. *** Bungie made Halo with a core group of unknown, unproven develpers. Nobody bothered them, they just made something from love. THEY GOT LUCKY and stumbled upon a battle engine that was amazing and fun. (like halflife engine). its used and re-used...even in destiny. But, what else are they capable of? It's like, if you denied them that engine, and start from scratch, itd be another avg game. Hey, most devs NEVER even find that chemistry. we should have been more skeptical, it was a new thing. new dicttaorship publisher. You see, kids. it is just like in music. Everyone know Greenday? alright, well...greenday made their best music (which is the case with 99% of any music group) BEFORE they are signed to a MAJOR label. They were signed from very early on, but by local and small publishers. Why need a publisher like bungie needs activision? ...because at the end of the day, if your job is making art, you need funds to promote, produce, etc. that artwork to maximize its success. did early greenday as teenagers, all stoned and playing punkrock hav the money themselves to grow? even to produce cds...the most basic investment, requires a "deal with the devil." Totally uninfluenced art in its purest is great (THAT is why the first few albums of bands are always better, they arent yet mainstream.) But, if you become a "sellout." then, the soul of the product is lost in the sake of money. Truth? These big production companies: EA, Activision, etc, etc...THEY are only focused on money. They didnt make the game, they dont care what it is, as long as it has the most earning potential. obvious to us older players, of course. But, the part that alot of you arent grasping is... Onceyou sign with one of the big-name companies, you also sign with a big-name cash check. The downide is (and he reason why bands turn to gabage once they sign with a big label) is that YOU as a developer, no longer have any say on how your own art is made. really. They know what you can do, they paid you all that cash. so they own you....They have a list and formula of what their reserchers have concluded to be the best ways to maximize profit, and it generally means widening target audience, to maximize potential buyers. So, open world is in? gota be open world. Dont like chopping up the game to be sold later as DLC? tough! itll make us more money. Bungie has more resources, but no creative freedom. THAT is the key. freedom but no resources? or resources but no artistic freedom? Guys, think. If you have already BOUGHT THE GAME. Why would activision authorize manpower (which costs money to them) to make you feel better about a game you already bought? Theyve moved on, moneys been made, theyre looking onto the next. wanan feel better? learn. nextime, keep it in your pants and skip the midnight release. wait a damn day and see if the game is good, i save myseklf all the time by doing that. Oh, and dont listetn to machinima....those guys are total morons. sorry, they are. nothign worse than an elitist "gamer." who thinks hes the final authority on a whole subject.[/quote]

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  • Edited by lukhoy: 2/9/2015 9:01:23 PM
    Destiny is very creativ an fun, so stop complaning all the time If you dont like destiny, so stop playing it

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  • just shut up already!

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  • Amen

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  • P.S. I'm someone that actually understands how long it takes to make a game, and these people ( possibly millions) hate it and throw years of work right out the window! STOP THE HATING!!!!!!!!!!!!11111oneoneone

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  • try reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame much better than the teen bitch fest found here

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  • Really?Im pretty sure that's why they MADE THIS FU#KING BOARD!! Hears a hint IF you don't like to read it...then why don't you disappear? That sounds much more likely then people going to a discution board that welcomes complaints and problems as well as discutions on if the game sucks or rules and HEARING those very same things THEN you yapping off at the mouth,trolling your flappy overweight face about people going to a place there told to go to complain...hmm,just a thought shitbrick...just a thought.

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  • missed my point. Just because it IS, doesn't mean it should BE. The OFFICIAL DESTINY MESSAGE BOARDS should be a place of fellowship for fans of the series. Humans who have developed some degree of maturity, respect, patience. I like participating, but it gets to be a little much, too often. Plus, what are you even defending? I'm not ANTI-complaints, problems. But, in a solely PRODUCTIVE, organized, and well-mannered way. ...Or guess what? it isn't taken seriously. Change starts with basic human communication. You...my good man, aren't an asset your own "case," and that speaks for itself.

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  • Mate, I work in software business, and like most businesses I can tell you that reputation is fundamental, if you sell once and all your customers are getting pissed off for the product received, you will not sell again to those customer. These are the basics of marketing. Plus, Bungie wants to sell a product that has a lifecycle of 10 years, they need to keep their customers satisfied, else they will fail. Said this, as a customer, I will complain, a lot, because I want Destiny to be a successful Game and there are few things they have to fix ASAP... Like; [b]MATCHMAKING[/b]!!!!!

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  • Edited by DIY Labotamy: 12/26/2014 10:52:57 AM
    Firstly, thank you for using proper rhetoric. I agree, bad publicity on a product will make them change. In their quest for a fiscal revival, they'll be making a better product, so all is balanced. Like i told young lad above you, I never made a case for propaganda, what do i gain? I just think there is a time and a place. More vital: to have respect for these developers. No wise man, prophet, school teacher, personal friend, ANYONE who has been HEARD and heralded CHANGE...If they played destiny (lol in some cases); what would a message board negative review/comment look like? (I'm a nerd, but no, not overweight. I've a formal education in theology and philosophy. so no, I'm no expert on software engineering/marketing/writing code/or getting a massive corporation to bend to my will.) -feel free to counter-argue. matt skiba would. :) Free speech is a great freedom, but so many with something productive to contribute are drowned by 100 lazy writers. "This is badzorz. fix now, bungee." or "This is flawed because: (state reasoning). This is my suggestion for a balanced solution." And a 10 year lifecycle? 1/2 dlc is out. once wolves is out, how is the game going to change in any dynamic way? admittedly, i dont know what "lifecycle" means here. will they'll be a few active players in a decade....yeah, prob. But to surge thru 2 WHOLE console gens? naw. destiny 2 will be out in a couple years. [b][/b]

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  • Actual it's 1/5 with the third being a major dlc with new patrol area and other stuff and then the second game will come out.

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