Daladek, I have responded previously with my counter argument however you said [quote]Hell, I don't even know what the hell is the team suppose to do there [/quote] Okay the Deathsinger will begin a 2 minute song of death once the team is noticed. After two minutes she begins a liturgy that lasts 30 seconds after which everyone dies. To stop this timer the Deathsinger must be killed. The Deathsinger and two Wizards are behind unbreakable walls, the walls are wired to two shriekers both must be destroyed to bring down the walls. The shriekers are each tied to a wizard, when a wizard is killed that sides shrieker becomes vulnerable. Lure out the wizards on each side (a quick run in and out of the antechambers will do it) Kill the wizards Storm the two sides and kill the two shriekers Kill the Deathsinger (Solar) Kill the remaining adds in the Deathsinger room until the checkpoint clears. Kill Crota. This is the basic formula and doing it will get the result you want. As people become accustomed it will become faster and you should be able to knock this back in a minute. HOWEVER: This formula is not the actual answer to the puzzle. I have survived during this mission for 11 minutes without dying. The song can be managed, perhaps even avoided (templar no teleport, wink). There are clues throughout the previous sections that reveal more about this puzzle. Also her Grimoire card is part of the puzzle. As with VoG and the game as a whole finding the solutions to the puzzles unlock solutions to future puzzles. And unlocking these puzzles provide rewards. Or, as with anything there is the Brute Force method of getting the highest possible light level for the entire team getting the best possible weapons and just smashing everything. It works, it is part of the mechanic, it is a solution to the puzzle. RInse and repeat every week on every character after grinding for every possible advantage, cursing RNGesus the entire way. Or Cheese everything, find every loophole, max your gear like a vulture and only do the raid as pieces until the hard raid comes out and you have to feed off of other people's checkpoints like a parasite. Or Solo it like a freakin bad a$$ I know people have complained that because a person solo'd it the raid is garbage but really the mechanic for this raid is you have 4 options to complete. 1. Defeat the puzzle using the clues provided 2. Smash the puzzle 3. Feed off the success of others avoiding the puzzle 4. Be AWESOME and do whatever the heck you want solo. I am on PS3, if you are as well and ever want to solve the puzzle I am willing. Regardless of rewards the practice is enough incentive for me as long as it is not during Iron Banner or other event that I might be focusing on.

fyi if you beat her the drops on crota are better. Rite listen. A lot of you say otherwise so I guess what I said is wrong. So keep by passin it then

You aren't kidding man. I've only beaten the Deathsinger one time and it was because I literally refused to go any further with the group until they beat it lol had to make sure they were worthy enough. Anyone can skip the other checkpoints with a cheese. Seems that the only legit part of the raid is the part nobody wants to do.

It's stuff like this that really makes me glad I've got a devoted regular raid team. I really feel for you guys who end up like the op stuck at ir yut because your other randoms want to skip checkpoints and essentially make everyone find new groups just to finish something that can infact be done in under 5 minutes. My team and I agree tho that there should be some kind of reward for this phase. There's no reason that a NAMED mob in the game should not drop loot (minus Randal). The encounter itself feels like it was designed to have loot in it for that matter.

Haven't done the deathsinger yet. My friend who has completed the raid said that DS was easily the hardest part of the raid, and there needs to be at least SOMETHING for the DS to drop.