Absolutely , which makes it so much more of a stranger experience now, I am giving a tour or briefing almost every time now at crota , and the times it doesn't work is never cause of 'that one guy' or 'people really not knowing what to do' because you can know what do in like 2 mins .... The problem is always not enough firepower or heavy ammo synth , or running out of time but that's cause you are not doing enough damage quick enough

This. Aaaaargh. I STILL haven't beaten him. And I spent a while yesterday. Albeit I have you tube knowledge only but what else is there if the only people who join up who've beaten him only know how to cheese him. I take a few minutes at the start organising everyone, making sure we all know what we're doing. Wait for people to pop back to the tower if they need heavy ammo. Then there is always one who just doesn't follow the plan. Mostly people seem to be too tight using / buying heavy ammo synth. I don't really mind that, but if only they said "I'm out of ammo synth" then we'd know and the rest of us can launch an extra rocket for good measure, and we could use that player to keep constant dps in Crota to at least stop the shield regen. One silent person shooting a primary screws the timing completely. In fairness Crota cheesed us when he was in 1/10 health and we took his shield down, as the last rocket hit instead of kneeling he got full shield and killed the swordbearer. I just wish he'd done that to the people cheesing him not to us poor sods who'd spent hours trying to do it properly. Anyway, rant over. I do agree with OP that a tracking rocket launcher is useful, though his movements are predictable so you can compensate, especially if your rocket has cluster bomb. As for me, I might have one more go today before I leave it till next week. I'll be hoping some people who know how to do it properly take pity having already done it with all 3 of their character and give half an hour of their time to help me nail this. There are one or two people I've tried this with over the last few days who have been great, and I hope they've managed to take him down already.

You want to do it together ? I got check point aswell , think we share the same problem, the first and only time I beat Crota was 8 days ago when we all finally came to that conclusion. I've given the Crota briefing so many times now, and watch it work fine yet get progressively less successful as people start getting heavy ammo stingy I'm bored ,of this constantly happening , sooo frustratingly simple and people can't see it