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12/18/2014 7:53:17 AM
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Yes this game uses an RNG system! We get it! People can stop making these posts.
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Yeah it uses RNG for the entire game and it's wrong.
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Edited by Mikelarry85: 12/18/2014 9:03:51 AMI dont think post like this should stop. What is the point if the top player striving to be good when the player with the least effort gets the better gear. If post like this keep popping up bungie will have to do something unless lose the hardcore gamers and while you might not care bungie does as thats 1 less gamer for destiny 2 to spread the gospel of destiny.
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To umm have fun? I thought that was the point of most games. Back in the day games didn't even have rewards. All there was was points and people strived to have the high score. The very few times I've played crucible I would rather be top score and not get an exotic then be last and get one because when I do well I have more fun. Plus its so easy to get exotics in this game, simply do other activities that reward them. If you are relying on just crucible to get exotics you're shooting yourself in the foot. Especially considering its the worst way to get them.
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I play pvp, pve and all the exotics i own are becuase i grinded for strange coins not dropped as loot. You play for high score fair does i play for that as well as getting better gear as i have never had any decent drop from any of the activitiea this game has
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I would recommend strike playlist than if you need loot, it has a guatenteed rare quality minimum loot each round where as crucible though is rare quality minimum as well, it also has a high chance of no loot what so ever. Though luck is luck and if you haven't managed to get an exotic from raid or nightfall which is legendary minimum loot you might have just fallen out of favor from rngesus!
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Edited by Mikelarry85: 12/18/2014 5:39:51 PMStrike playlist i literally carried the other two people they got suros i got shards and no this did not happen once. The last time i got 91 kills the player who got 20 kills got ghorn If i sound jaded its because this game has made me so. I still play becuase its the only game o can hope in and hop out from that will change next year
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RNG is a bitch my friend. But the chances are all equal, I'm sorry from what you've observed it feels like its biased, but it is not. My suggestion would be to stop comparing yourself to others and their performance. When RNG is rolled its a separate roll for everyone and no consideration of others performance is calculated.
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I hear you, i have gone past caring now that i just get strange coins and get the exotics or items i want
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It's not that the player with the least effort gets better gear, it's luck. The chances are equal for everyone, you may have some who will never receive an exotic in the Crucible, and others who get one everyday, whether they are good or not doesn't come in to the equation. What I'm trying to say is that the game doesn't punish you for doing good, just as much as it doesn't punish you for doing bad, it's equal opportunity. Should you get increased chances for doing good? I don't know. People would still complain that people who do bad in one game get lucky, that won't ever change, Bungie won't remove the chances of getting a good drop for everyone even if they increase the drop rate based on performance.
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I can appreciate your point but I have only ever seen the worst player on the team get a drop, I am always high on the scoreboard and in nearly 1000 games I've only ever had one Exotic, in that particular game I went negative and had put my controller down for the last 5 minutes to change the baby. It randomly rewards the worst players, the fact that thousands of people report the same thing is no coincidence.
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No. I have never seen a top player get an exotic. I have seen 5-6 bottom players get exotics though. It's not completely random.
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There's twelve players. Your sample set is to small to be statistically valid.
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12 players times the amount of games he's played. Is too, "statistically valid."
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No it's not, not even close. Five drops, total, isn't even a whole team's worth. If they dropped, at regular intervals, in the order [2,4,3,6,5,1], that isn't even enough samples to spot the pattern. If you're trying to establish a probability distribution, you need tens of samples per possibility, not 0.8-1.0 samples. The only thing this sample set's big enough to prove is "exotics don't drop very often", which I don't think many'll dispute.
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Yes there is 12 players. I don't understand what you're getting at.
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You have twelve players who could have gotten an exotic, yet the number of times you've ever seen anyone get one is at most six. That's like doing an opinion poll for the presidential election, and asking one person.
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Edited by S7Oracle: 12/18/2014 10:55:39 AMHe's saying that you'd have to play with a majority of the Destiny population multiple times, seeing each of them get drops, to get statistically relevant data. What you're doing is basing the drop mechanics as a whole on your perception alone, and that's narrow-minded thinking.
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Eh I can't find it anywhere. Whatevs.
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Yeah that's true that I am. I'll still be stubborn about it and say that the worst on the team will most likely get the exotic. I remember there was a post about these guys who tested it to see if it was random. Let me see if I can find it.
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Speculation by so few (even thousands would not be enough) still will not bring certain truth, not even close. You have to keep in mind that hundreds of thousands play this game daily (maybe even millions). So no matter how much research anyone does, it will never be enough to prove anything for sure. If people want to believe that having a low K/D in a game will bring better drops, then they will, it's a classic case of placebo effect, a lot of people will ignore when they get a drop or someone good gets a drop, but will only take notice when someone at the bottom gets a drop (or someone besides them gets a drop). Which is why I've heard a lot of my friends say "Man, that guy got an exotic! I never get one!" even though I know they got a drop days prior to them saying that.
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Edited by S7Oracle: 12/18/2014 10:19:40 AMI've been top player a lot, and I have gotten 4 exotics from the Crucible. I have also witnessed other top players get exotics. Do you honestly believe that the system singles people out?
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Maybe. The mechanics allow for incompetent players to feel good about themselves and encourages hours upon hours of gameplay. It is self evident that Bungie wants to grind out as many hours as they can from their players. This is the only reason that your precious raid gear became obsolete after the dark below, the reason that you had (I understand that now you can buy them (using marks that you grind out)) to farm materials to upgrade armor and weapons, and the same reason that the RNG is implemented in the first place. It's implemented so that middle schoolers can spend all of their parents money on a game that they can play because it requires no real skill. That's what the gaming industry is, and if you support them, it's borderline communism.
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Shush you filthy skank
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Take it easy baby hughie
