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You are a crybaby. Not everyone uses it. I get killed by plenty of other weapons while using it. Hand cannons are high risk high reward, it's harder to use than an AR or PR.
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Hawkmoon Red death Any sniper No land beyond Universal remote Any shotgun All rockets Thunderlord And I'm sure there are more guns that will kill in about 2 head shots. Let's nerf them all because they kill quickly with head shots. Let's ignore the fact that if any gun on the planet were to shoot you in the head, we wouldn't have to nerf it. We'd just go on about our day, less idiotic threads to scroll passed.
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[quote]I've seen everywhere on the forum that Thorn is OP now and is frustrating tons of people. From playing in the crucible I have to agree. 2 shots plus burn damage and its a kill. We don't need this in our Destiny community as it clearly takes 0 skill to use. Let's let Bungie know we don't want this weapon OP anymore! Especially before iron banner and then that's all anyone uses! (My predictions a long time ago were true, look at the crucible now). Bungie the community has spoken!!! Nerf Thorn!!! This is what almost everybody wants and there's hundreds of these threads on here!! Make it happen!![/quote] IMHO Handcannons I believe got the appropriate nerf this time around. Now before I start my reason why the nerf was needed dont hate on me cuz believe it or not i love handcannons and I own some pretty good ones. This time handcanons got an aim assist nerf and a minor but noticeable range and stability nerf. What this translates to is...no more easy headshot kills. The only reason why handcannons were so OP is because the aim assist was so strong at times plus adding the stability and range stats of the cannon(exp: HwkMn, Thorn, any legendary HC with average or + range and stability including perks) that would make it easy for any HC user to go for headshots because 80-90 percent of the time it would always be a comfirmed kill and the crazy thing about this was that even TLW w/ horrid range benefited from the op HC aim assist BEFORE THE PATCH. Before I start I would like to point out that I play as a Warlock Voidwalker with HC,sniper, rockets in Crucible(exp plyr). Now after patch as a full blown HC user I can honestly say that it takes alot more skill to get headshots even on exotic HC. I own HwkMn,Thorn,RedHand9 (w/perks Hipfire,sendit,feedingfrenzy) and have played with them for a decent amount of time after patch an can say that any HC with average or + stats(including perks affecting these stats) in range and stability seem to cancel out the RANGE and STABILITY nerf ONLY. You do notice right away that the SUPER OP aim assist is almost non existent which means that if we HC users want those good'ol headshots we have to relay on our skills and the HC's range and stability stats to achieve headshots not the aim assist. The HC's that I noticed the nerf the most was my Timurs Slash(w/perks zen moment,field scout(PvE) or perfect balance(PvP),feedingfrenzy) and TLW(own it). Both of these weapons suffer from the lack of range or stability stat which means that HC users with The Last Word have to play extremely aggressive close range and take advantage of the HipFire and The Last Word perk because of the lack of range. Same for Timurs Lash HC users they have to pick theyre shots and play at ranged distances becase of the weapons rate of fire and lack of stability. With that said I believe that players should try these weapons out before they cry nerf and see how EASY it is to get HC kills and how it DOESN'T require ANY SKILL AT ALL to use HC. Trust me it takes skill now for those good'ol headshots.
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Thorn has a .36 second/kill time. All other primaries have around a .8-1 second time to kill. (Critical shots assumed) Those saying that Thorn is not overpowered are ignorant of the actual data expressing TTK. To fix this, simply reduce the DoT effect (in PVP only) to prevent two shot kill capability.
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It's been nerfed once.
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Inb4realisingallexotichandcannons2shot
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Edited by Gravemind94: 3/31/2015 6:32:07 PMIf bungie nerfs thorn, I'm gonna take destiny to gamestop and flush a taco down the toilet.
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Dear Bungie, Paper is OP Scissors are OK Signed, Rock
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You are just mad you don't have one Y u hef be med is only game
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The community has not spoken. A few loud, whiney bitches have whined.
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Edited by sunlicker: 2/13/2017 11:30:23 PMThank you :)
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Whatever. Doesn't matter, I own all weapons pick one, everyone will kill you with it.
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You forgot, #out of tampons
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Muted
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Ive never thought crucible was over run with thorns, in truth I rarely see them, they are pretty good weapons, but so are others. bungie alreay broke AR'S with nerfs, do we really need them to break any more weapons.
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The community has NOT spoken. Git gud and counter it. It does take skill because you have to land the shots... Also lots of other weapons can kill you faster. If you want to complain about op weapons, go play cod ad and use the bal 27, you scruby dub dub
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Edited by madmannyg: 3/30/2015 4:03:43 PMThorn is the most difficult exotic bounty weapon to obtain. It is supposed to be a powerful weapon. And the fact that it was just nerfed would mean that it was even more powerful before. The fact that so many ppl are complaining about it now more than ever shows that the nerf to auto rifles worked. I was always a thorn user and was just being rekt by Suros and vanquisher. Now ppl play way more with handcannons and pulse rifles. If they nerf any handcannons there will be nerf posts for red death. So no. No more nerfs. These posts are ridiculous
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Bungie should nerf the forums so these threads would go away.
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Have you ever done that pain in the ass bounty? It's SO -blam!-ING HARD. And you know what? Thorn wasn't worth it, until it was buffed. The only place, though, that thorn performs exceedingly well is PVP. Exotics are all situational, and Thorn's got to be one of the most versatile. However, you're gonna have more trouble killing someone with Red Death, Vex, or many other exotics. Calm the -blam!- down. Thorn should stay where it is, having been nerfed, buffed, nerfed again, and buffed again. So. Play the game. Adapt. Good day.
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Shut up about Thorn.
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How do people get 2 shot kills with thorn?? Even with head shots it takes at least 3 shots to kill for me. & mines maxed
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I Gotta side with this guy. Honestly thorn is OP, but they need to take it down a bit in PvP. People can fire across map with it and get kills. That's not right. That's why we have snipers. At least nerf it to take down the range.
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Stfu whiner
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> Thorn was this deadly before buff and gets called useless > Thorn gets buffed and people thinks that it's OP now Bungie, please return Thorn to the state it was in before it got popular. They just don't know how good we Thorn users had it. I miss the old days.
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If you are new to crucible and looking a way to achieve some easy-no skill-scrub ass kills just use thorn. Don't miss out in obtaining thorn from one of the easiest exotic bounties out there!!
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Another person mad because they can't finish the bounty for it I assume...