I got some very much appreciated assistance from Dru last night. I got invited to a completely random group to do VoG We got to the templar and the party leader dropped out, then another man dropped. I invited my friend who is lvl 27 because he had bugging me to do VoG saying we can do it with 3 people. Clearly he didn't understand, which was ok. I figured this would get him idea of the difficulty. We are still short a man and 3 people in the group had never been in VoG. I had just been through "The Falcon Bootcamp" :-) I was the most experienced one with about 4 runs. This brings me to scanning my friends list for someone with experience to help out. I saw Dru was online and asked him for help. In fairness I don't think he knew what he was getting into After countless times with the Oracle before the templar Dru and myself were getting frustrated because no one was listening to get the Oracles. Finally got the group to listen and we beat that round. Dru then was the relic holder for the Templar. We ended up having 3 on the ground and 3 on the ledge where Falcon had us previously. It took a few rounds but we killed the Templar just before he enraged. Dru then got us through the Gorgan maze and the jumping maze before the very early hours in the morning. Then he left for the night and I as well. I told you all of this to let you know what we went through and that I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE ASSISTANCE FROM YOU DRU!!!