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Edited by FiOth: 12/5/2014 9:53:13 AM
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On the EXOTIC RESET (The Ultimate W.T.F moment we've been waiting for)

This is intended to be an open letter towards both players and devs, although the likelihood of it being taken under consideration is abysmally low. First and foremost, let me state that I've been playing [b]DESTINY [/b]since day-one, pre-ordered the Ghost Edition and allowed myself a bit of time in its world almost every day since release. I've been a supporter of what Bungie has [u]supposedly [/u]been trying to do with their new ip, giving it time and considering the flaws in a mild, understanding and mostly academic way: All MMOish games start weak and those that are worthwhile shine down the road. Suffice to say, I've been looking forwards to the Expansion like a child awaiting Christmas. I've lost count of how many times I've watch the trailer - complete with its very own unimaginative portraition of Crota as yet another larger generic Knight - and was delighted with the changes made in the last patch (Dec 1). That is to say, I did not realize right away why something THAT good and logical would happen to a game rooted in the idea of "hours per day/ per people playing/ per Activision stocks in various markets". The deal, it seems, was to sweeten us. They gave us a FINALLY viable way of amassing the moronic amounts of materials required to upgrade Exotic and Legendary gear so we would be less enraged when the new, MAGNIFICENT idea came around. And oh boy, was that a big turd in the face of the dedicated users! I quote the patch notes: "Upgrading an Exotic in this way [u]will require an Exotic Shard[/u]. (That alone will cost 7K. That is about 35% of the amount you can have at any given time. Then, it's farmathon again) [u]The upgrade will reset the progression invested into the item[/u]. ("Invested" is the word used. What a -blam!-ing joke) Each week, Xûr will possess [u]a selection[/u] of upgrades for existing Exotics in his inventory." (Like he's been so trustworthy so far, selling Sunbreakers every other week along with those blasted Voidfangs) ... ... ... Are you people out of you GODDAMN MINDS!?! We have been running around doing stupid, repetitive bounties over and over again just to feed the gear and weapons enough XP to lvl, we've been farming for freakin' HUNDRENDS of hours for the blasted Destination Materials, we've been spending a TON of glimmer per each upgrade, we've poured THREE BLASTED MONTHS of our live's free time just to have a bloody game reset? Specific weapon will be available for upgrade WHEN Xur decides to bring about each of those blasted upgrades?! What about all the people who need the Exotic gear to get to 30? They will have to drop 2-3 lvls and start refarming all that crap! Do you think that the user base exists just to feed the -blam!-ing "hours per day" numbers? THAT'S the respect you show to the people who pay you for your product? THAT's the grant design choice? WHERE THE -blam!- DID BUNGIE GO?! I am pissed out of my mind people. I can't believe how hideously money-driven this whole thing is. And if you are naive in some way and don't understand what "money" has to do with all this, consider how important it is for the companies involved to have active, paying people in the game. More hours of pointless farming, more people online. If you want this mess to make ANY sense devs, you either give us back the materials invested, coupled with telemetries to speed up these processes or require, AT LEAST, that for any weapon to be upped it will first have to be maxed. Of course the ideal situation would be for the upgrading to go on from the current state of the gear but we couldn't have that now, could we? First way will ensure that the people who invested the time are not being awfully crapped upon (you know, the time of our lives that we could have spent playing something else or doing gardening will not be totally wasted?) whilst the second will actually even the playing field for people who will be getting the older Exotics down the way. Do I need to point out that the second idea is still shit but at least it's somewhat fair? No? Great.And PLEASE, don't give me the "it's all optional" bs line. If not upped, those hard-earned pieces of gear will be obsolete. We are forced, either to upgrade them or to ditch them altogether. I don't even know what to think anymore. The game's situation is getting messier by the day. Where did the company behind [b]Halo [/b]go? Where did RESPECT for the players go? Do you think that by showing us photos of workspaces and adress us like ol' pals you are actually befriending us when THIS stuff hits the servers? You went in bed with the freaking devil guys, I am very sorry to say. All that matters, and it is plain as day at this point, is how many playhours the clock registers, how many people cope with all the crap that's been happening, how many "rationalize" all the RNG bs that's in place ONLY to impede progress. I have a TON of stuff to mention here but I will stay on topic. You spit on us, [b]Bungie[/b]. You spit on our dedication, on our hard-earned money, on our -blam!-ing TIME. I'm at the edge of my patience here. I hope I am not alone. EDIT: Seems like I'm NOT freaking alone. Thank you guys. Here are a few more threads, let's spread awareness about all this bs and see if Bungie is "listening loud and clear" as they claim to. http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/82061069/0/0 http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/82305663/0/0 http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/82089048/0/0 WNxChadzors wrote: "Here's an idea? Let's give everyone at bungie a promotion but reset their pay scale to entry level. That sounds fun right Deej? You just need a good recommendation from your supervisor who only comes into the office once a week and only reviews employees at random and then you can start to work on your raises again. Simple."

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  • Exactly how I felt I was excited for the dlc but once I read what was going to happen I suddenly didn't feel excited for it no more. The dlc is more like whatever now.

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  • So Much Agree

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  • Edited by ToughGuy051: 12/5/2014 7:25:25 AM
    Reddit has some good ideas and alternatives. It just seems they want to prestige us and extend play time. Ideas: 1. You could waver the upgrade fee, make it cheaper and cheaper the more its leveled 2. Each node you upgraded prior is now free, only the exp is needed 3. Empty out the last three nodes and replace the atk values 4. Add a new set of nodes to push its atk value forward 5. Keep all exp intact when upgrading These are all much better ideas than presteging. I dont need you to tell me to play this way. Keep leveling stuff or people will leave. No, if your game is fun i will not leave. You do not have to artificial increase playtime. Ill stick around. Ill buy all your dlc's. Unless this goes through then idk. You guys are dumb.

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  • This might be cause to quit Destiny. But I'm gonna try it and see if I enjoy it after the dlc

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    • I just want to let bungie know that without us gamers, they make no money. So in a way you could say they work for us. Yet they continue to screw us.

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    • You're not alone buddy.

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    • Agreed and BUMP!

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    • Increased attack was on its way with level a increase. Would you rather have to get a brand new exotic to get the extra damage or would you like the opportunity to reforge it. I personally like the option.

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      • Edited by Unforgiven: 12/5/2014 3:36:12 AM
        I agree. I dont want to re-level my exotic weapons. That is just silly. Who came up with this idea in the first place? I want to go into the expansion to experience something new. I want to get new gear and weapons. I don't want to waste time leveling the same old weapons i been using. I like my weapons but that is not how I want to spend christmas.

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        • If i can say, your upgrading your exotic to have better stats but with a reset to it. where do you get 7k from ? 7 tokens ? [quote]Purchased from Xûr for 7 Strange Coins[/quote] [quote]Starting December 9th, Xûr will offer players the opportunity to upgrade Exotics to the higher Attack and Defense values[/quote] [quote]Upgrading an Exotic in this way will require an Exotic Shard [/quote] [quote]The upgrade will reset the progression invested into the item[/quote] It is like in the Iron Banner to get a diffrent upgrade tree but this time to increase dmg or def.

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        • At least we don't pay for monthly fees and/or microtransactions. THATs why they made those design decisions. Horde modes, grinding and farming. We are all suckers for this.

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          • I agree with this post fully. Ive grinded for hours and hours and now my gear will be useless if i choose NOT to upgrade it, so there really isnt much choice. Bungie, you are losing customers, please rethink this. You have lied to us and made stupid mistakes on the game but yet you continue to do it. If you keep doing this and dont FIX the game then the probability of losing customers will skyrocket. Maybe you wont lose them on this game, but i can promise you that if this game isnt fixed (and soon) that im done with bungie. No more bungie anything. And i know that about half the community is with me on this one.

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          • It cost 7 strange coins not 7k

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            • I agree 100%... Bump this post into Bungie's azz.

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            • Posting to express that I support your post. Gods damnit bungivision,get your shit together!

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            • Thank you for the taking words out of my mouth.

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            • Hey if you guys feel like being mature this bs already blew over on the gamefaqs ps4 boards its a little sad that this is like the 10th super long identical topic on these boards.

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            • I agree. I dont have much time but i want to bump this so im going to say my peice. Everyone hates this. No matter if they say they dont they do they just dint want to complain. Reseting an exotic for most of the casual players is devestating. Sure for the hardcore base its not significant because itll only take a day or three to up them again. Still it sux. Three days we could have been upgrading something else. Something new. But we have to be lv with everyone else and reseting it drops us. Im honestly scared.. AND excited for the dlc.. more scared and sad because the game i love.. isnt there anymore. I feel utterly insulted.

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            • Amen. It's weird and sad to see how this big company doesn't know what to do with the universe they created, they just show themselves like a bunch of amateurs.

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            • Time to trade in I think. Im bored of this game already and haven't had it a month.

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            • I like that I can keep my exotics but I hate how Someone who JUST GOT Their EXOTICS gets the benefit of keeping all ascendant materials that I had to use to UPGRADE MY FULLY LEVELED EXOTIC I believe bungie is doing this exotic reset partially because they don't know how to manage a game like this And I believe that they purposely did this reset SO PEOPLE WHO BOUGHT THE game for CHRISTMAS/HOLIDAYS would still have incentive to play so they wouldn't be left behind with the new content This same theory would apply to the casual once a week gamers so they aren't left behind also Leave your thoughts If this goes through I'm done

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              • They straight up lied. Said our exotics would stay relevent. There not, they are replaced. I was ok with purps getting replaced. Whatever, but you have said on multiple occassions that at least our exotics will always remain useful. Why bother leveling all them up, why spend 7000 glimmer and a shard. Just buy the fresh new exotics. What a joke.

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