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Edited by GenericDreadhead: 11/27/2014 12:34:18 PM
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Petition to return Materials when scrapping Upgraded Gear

Give us 25% of our spent Materials Back

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Give us 33% of our spent Materials Back

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Give us 50% of our spent Materials Back

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[u]Fellow Guardians, WOW! Thank you All so much for all the Upvotes and Signatures, this thread took off like a rocket and I cannot express how thankful I am, you're a great bunch of people[/u] :) [i](Please UpVote and Comment "Signed" if you want this to 'Trend" and be seen by DeeJ etc)[/i] Nobody enjoys doing hours of farming [b]SpinMetal[/b], [b]Spirit Bloom[/b], [b]Helium Filaments[/b][b] or Relic Iron[/b] It takes 64-80 of these materials to fully upgrade a Legendary or Exotic. This equates to the farming for the almost a hour. In the late end-game most players will need to put in about 10+ hours of farming. I accept this is part of the RPG-MMO game style put we’re approaching South Park “Killing Boars” in WoW magnitudes here. Why can’t we receive a percentage of the Materials we’ve spent in return for dismantling an upgraded piece of gear. Even a token 25% would be better than nothing, it would help the end-game in all the right ways. An amount like 50% would be great but I doubt this will happen given how the rest of the upgrading system works. 33% would be extremely fair, still require a decent bit off farming but not completely ruin the late-end game experience. To have a decent PvE and PvP load out takes almost 1,200 Materials. That’s 3 fully upgraded Legendaries/Exotics in each of the 3 weapon slots. 6 fully upgraded pieces of armour (say 2 different exotics for an alternative PvP load out or alternative Exotic to suit your 2nd Subclass). Come on Bungie, with the DLC launching soon there are gonna be a lot of very annoyed level 28+ players who spent many hours getting high level gear. That gear will now be redundant (if we ignore all “you can upgrade it further” [u]speculation[/u]). We’ll have players (myself included) with all sorts of Raid gear, Iron Banner gear, Queens Wrath Gear (haha) and Exotics. The least you could do is give us a decent portion of our Materials (and Shards/Energy) back. Please sign, like, bump, upvote, whatever this thread if you’d like to see it addressed by Bungie and the Community management team Added a poll so you can vote for what percentage you think we should receive when scrapping gear. Good Luck out there Guardians. Thanks in Advance GenericDreadHead [b]Edit 1: [/b]Spelling and so forth :P [b]Edit 2: [u]The Zero % Option edit.[/u][/b] Wow, ok seems like I'm getting a lot of hate for the Poll options, for what it's worth I tried editing the poll to add a 0% option. Guess what? I can't edit it, so.... sorry about that. Really the idea of the Thread was to get "Signatures/Bumps" and "Upvotes/Likes" to keep it trending, the poll was merely an after thought and not put in with a "Add every option under the sunsinger" attitude. It was, if you "agree" with the concept of the Thread, you could add some self expression by picking your preferred solution. You will also notice I did not add a 100% option... or a 12.5% option, or a 75% option etc. I'm absolutely more than happy for a Mod/Admin to step in at the back end and add a 4th Poll option for 0%. Sorry for not having considered the 0% option, as you will see the other 3 options were in my thought process when I wrote the original post. Thanks for your feedback, at least nobody died..... yet... >:-| [b]Edit 3: [/b] Ok..... jeez louise... look I realise that DeeJ and Co would have listened to my idea even If I was a sole person saying what I'm saying, that's whats good about the community. What I was trying to convey in the original post was a singular straight forward fix to what I and many others perceive to be one of the biggest mis-steps in the games flow of excitement (farming). I'm sorry if this kicked off any other petitions or just added to an existing petition problem. What I saw, when I saw a lot of other posters suggestions were, and I'm going to be brutality honest here: Posts asking for about 7 big changes, the kind of things that would be realistically over maybe 4 patches. I may be in the minority here, but 1 thread per suggestion would catch my attention and could clearly convey it's message. Also, some of what was being asked for was very subjective, I tried my best to be as objective as possible, taking my own personal annoyance at farming and stepping back and trying to focus on that being a possible problem with the games mechanics and less of a "dag nab it, I just hates me doing some loops cause it's all up in my business for 20 minutes". Also, I saw a lot of "Xur should or should not sell this" and "This gun and that gun should be buffed/nerfed". There are some great threads with some really great suggestions (see the thread to enable to edit character looks etc) but they were buried in the likes of the above mentioned. What I'm trying to say in hindsight is, in my long winded way, I maybe should have left out the "Petition" part and just said, "Do you think?" and give Yes, No and Maybe So Poll options, but well, here we are now. I realise my voice alone would not have been unheard, I just kind of hoped maybe some like minded voices could gather in the same space together. Also thanks to everyone who pointed out recent comments by DeeJ and co where they say they are address the Farming and Economy. This is very welcome news but I was just trying to create some urgency I guess. I mean they also said Thorn would be buffed ages ago :D Finally thanks for all of you with you patience and understanding and ,from what I can tell, little or no trolling :) We've all made mistake on internet forums, if I could turn back time and edit the thread I would. So much love for this forum and community right now. Group hug? Anyone? Telekineses Hug maybe? :D
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  • Signed any really id take 10 percent id like 50 but more importantly... bump

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  • I definitely think mat procurement needs to be addressed. The only way you can acquire mats is through farming. I like your suggestion. I also came up with a proposal to introduce some form of exchange for mats: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/81076449/0/0

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  • This game needs some sort of balanced economy. Most of the vendors are worthless. Crytarch, shader chic, class specific and faction vendors.

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  • Psshhh, quit your job newb, I spend 4 hours a day farming and I never run out of materials. I've come to enjoy the mind-numbing effect, helps me drown out my mother's screams to "get a job" and "stop kissing the screen, that's not a real person." YOUR $&@" RIGHTS IT'S NOT A PERSON, IT'S A SEXY FEMALE EXO TRYING TO SAVE THE WORLD SO GET OFF MY BACK!!!!

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    • I would like to see one or two pieces of random material each Time u scrap a rare or uncommon item like u do with weapon parts or armor material. Signed at 33%

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    • That's how it works. No rpg returns all your materials. I wish you cry babies would go back to call of duty.

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      • It only makes sense, you put in shards you get back a small percentage. You put in weapon parts, you get back a small percentage.. You put in some materials, you get back... Oh wait.. Nothing. Dude has a point.

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      • Anyone who hates on this is probably also someone when hates the iron banner lvl 30s even though it still takes atleast 1 piece of raid gear to be lvl 30

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      • [quote][u]Fellow Guardians, WOW! Thank you All so much for all the Upvotes and Signatures, this thread took off like a rocket and I cannot express how thankful I am, you're a great bunch of people[/u] :) [i](Please UpVote and Comment "Signed" if you want this to 'Trend" and be seen by DeeJ etc)[/i] Nobody enjoys doing hours of farming [b]SpinMetal[/b], [b]Spirit Bloom[/b], [b]Helium Filaments[/b][b] or Relic Iron[/b] It takes 64-80 of these materials to fully upgrade a Legendary or Exotic. This equates to the farming for the almost a hour. In the late end-game most players will need to put in about 10+ hours of farming. I accept this is part of the RPG-MMO game style put we’re approaching South Park “Killing Boars” in WoW magnitudes here. Why can’t we receive a percentage of the Materials we’ve spent in return for dismantling an upgraded piece of gear. Even a token 25% would be better than nothing, it would help the end-game in all the right ways. An amount like 50% would be great but I doubt this will happen given how the rest of the upgrading system works. 33% would be extremely fair, still require a decent bit off farming but not completely ruin the late-end game experience. To have a decent PvE and PvP load out takes almost 1,200 Materials. That’s 3 fully upgraded Legendaries/Exotics in each of the 3 weapon slots. 6 fully upgraded pieces of armour (say 2 different exotics for an alternative PvP load out or alternative Exotic to suit your 2nd Subclass). Come on Bungie, with the DLC launching soon there are gonna be a lot of very annoyed level 28+ players who spent many hours getting high level gear. That gear will now be redundant (if we ignore all “you can upgrade it further” [u]speculation[/u]). We’ll have players (myself included) with all sorts of Raid gear, Iron Banner gear, Queens Wrath Gear (haha) and Exotics. The least you could do is give us a decent portion of our Materials (and Shards/Energy) back. Please sign, like, bump, upvote, whatever this thread if you’d like to see it addressed by Bungie and the Community management team Added a poll so you can vote for what percentage you think we should receive when scrapping gear. Good Luck out there Guardians. Thanks in Advance GenericDreadHead [b]Edit 1: [/b]Spelling and so forth :P [b]Edit 2: [u]The Zero % Option edit.[/u][/b] Wow, ok seems like I'm getting a lot of hate for the Poll options, for what it's worth I tried editing the poll to add a 0% option. Guess what? I can't edit it, so.... sorry about that. Really the idea of the Thread was to get "Signatures/Bumps" and "Upvotes/Likes" to keep it trending, the poll was merely an after thought and not put in with a "Add every option under the sunsinger" attitude. It was, if you "agree" with the concept of the Thread, you could add some self expression by picking your preferred solution. You will also notice I did not add a 100% option... or a 12.5% option, or a 75% option etc. I'm absolutely more than happy for a Mod/Admin to step in at the back end and add a 4th Poll option for 0%. Sorry for not having considered the 0% option, as you will see the other 3 options were in my thought process when I wrote the original post. Thanks for your feedback, at least nobody died..... yet... >:-| [b]Edit 3: [/b] Ok..... jeez louise... look I realise that DeeJ and Co would have listened to my idea even If I was a sole person saying what I'm saying, that's whats good about the community. What I was trying to convey in the original post was a singular straight forward fix to what I and many others perceive to be one of the biggest mis-steps in the games flow of excitement (farming). I'm sorry if this kicked off any other petitions or just added to an existing petition problem. What I saw, when I saw a lot of other posters suggestions were, and I'm going to be brutality honest here: Posts asking for about 7 big changes, the kind of things that would be realistically over maybe 4 patches. I may be in the minority here, but 1 thread per suggestion would catch my attention and could clearly convey it's message. Also, some of what was being asked for was very subjective, I tried my best to be as objective as possible, taking my own personal annoyance at farming and stepping back and trying to focus on that being a possible problem with the games mechanics and less of a "dag nab it, I just hates me doing some loops cause it's all up in my business for 20 minutes". Also, I saw a lot of "Xur should or should not sell this" and "This gun and that gun should be buffed/nerfed". There are some great threads with some really great suggestions (see the thread to enable to edit character looks etc) but they were buried in the likes of the above mentioned. What I'm trying to say in hindsight is, in my long winded way, I maybe should have left out the "Petition" part and just said, "Do you think?" and give Yes, No and Maybe So Poll options, but well, here we are now. I realise my voice alone would not have been unheard, I just kind of hoped maybe some like minded voices could gather in the same space together. Also thanks to everyone who pointed out recent comments by DeeJ and co where they say they are address the Farming and Economy. This is very welcome news but I was just trying to create some urgency I guess. I mean they also said Thorn would be buffed ages ago :D Finally thanks for all of you with you patience and understanding and ,from what I can tell, little or no trolling :) We've all made mistake on internet forums, if I could turn back time and edit the thread I would. So much love for this forum and community right now. Group hug? Anyone? Telekineses Hug maybe? :D[/quote] True that!

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        • Actually, I enjoy patrols and hunting for materials. It doesn't take me long to fine enough for a couple upgrades and it never feels like an unpleasant "grind." So... disagree. Plus, realistically (not that realism is much of a thing in Destiny) you wouldn't be able to revert materials back to their previous states after using them to upgrade.

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        • Signed. 50%.

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        • Well so 25% is pushing it. 50 is waaaaay to much. You see the game is designed to make u grind to get materials to lvl up. This is a good idea but it takes away apart of the games mechanics

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          • Yes please

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          • Edited by loonigus: 11/28/2014 2:41:54 PM
            Reworking the weapon and armor parts system is I think considered and being discussed at Bungie. They are smart ppl and know very well about this. I thrust them with somthing comming up soon(ish). My ideas - Weapon and armor parts should be source that can be traded for something. Like ammo packs at the lonely weapon vendor. - Weapon parts used as a material to reforge legendary weapon (except raid ones). For example the FWC, Dead Orbit and War cult items reforged at their Vendors for weapon materials and 1 mote of light. Would also make more sense of buying them since lets be honest.. They are quite shit with their current perks... - Breaking down armor should give back also a portion of the materials used and the ammount would be according to the stuff we put in. [b]Example[/b]: Fully leveled up legendary item consumed 18 shards and currently gives back same amount as a fresh item which is imo WRONG! Fresh should give the 2 or 3 it gives back now, but a fully upgraded one should give more back. Lets say in case of 18 shards or energies invested it should give 6 back. If used only 6 shard it will give back 4 and in case of used 12 shards it will give back 5. - Breaking down Exotic items SHOULD ALWAYS give back way more materials then legendaries. It makes no sense that a Exotic weapon gives same amount of energies back as a shit legendary Doctor Nope. THIS is mostly intended for casual players that dont want or cant do the raid as often as they would like to. Obviously ppl with three lvl 30 chars doing the Hard raid 3x a week dont give a shit for shards or energies anymore since they have a shitload of them stockpiled, but randoms dont.

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          • It's a good idea but maybe we can give it to the weapons dealer for 25% of the materials. Anything more than /25 is kind of crazy.

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            • Bump, signed, and supported with all my Titan strength and Awoken blueness.

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            • At least for materials besides relic iron.

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            • Bump. Just give a bit back it would be nice. Even if it was random.

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