You lowly 30s in your luck of the draw raid gears. Took no skill to get it and probably got carried/exploited. Just because you pushed the Templar off the end 3 times a week doesn't make you skilled. You will always be bad. Pvp is where the men are and the gear looks 100x better. Have fun looking just like everyone else. Iron banner 30s have more skill, more class, and bigger balls than you do. Fact. Their gear means more and commands more respect. When I see a 30 in all raid gear I think "what a -blam!-ing scrub." Probably never played pvp in his life. There are -blam!-ing baddies everywhere. [spoiler]git gud scrub[/spoiler] IB geared people are better than raiders.