I'll be blunt. 30 is 30. I've seen and played with 30's who are worse than lvl25s I've seen and I've seen 30s who could basically care a team through the whole raid by themselves. The only thing I see with the raid or Banner gear is what perks fit their playing style. My buddy is prone to using scouted riffles and rarely uses heavy, whereas I love rockets so extra heavy the raid gear can provide is a nice bonus for my style. The bantering about real or fake 30 is just people upset that they did all that grinding. You know what, props for the full raid set. Props to those who touched through the banner. I have banner gear and full raid set, I just like to mix and match to best suit my load outs. It's a game that's every going to be changing, and personally I really enjoy this game. I honestly just care for teamwork and having fun through all the modes. I like the PvE option as well as the PvP option. It's still a work in progress over all but it has open potential.