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Edited by Joeyoungfitz: 11/7/2014 10:51:30 PM
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How Hunters are amazing in VoG

Makes me sick to see people kicking hunters out of VoG groups because they are "useless". I am going to prove them wrong. Here is how they are amazing in VoG 1. Destroying oracles fast: Got three oracles you need to destroy in less then 5 seconds or else your team die? Not a problem for a gunslinger. They can one shot those oracles 2. Great relic holders: Hunters are best fitted for the relic. They are very fast and quick. The whole team spread out and you need to cleanse them? Not a problem for the Hunter. They are also really good for in the teleporter for Atheon. 3. Clearing out enemies: Got a bunch of supplicants swarming your team on atheon? Get gunslinger and Time Vengeances and you can take out all those supplicants out. Need to help out clear enemies with the shield guy in the teleporter? Not a problem. Now you know how they are amazing in VoG. What are they are not good out? 1. Cheesing I laugh at the people who say hunters are useless in VoG. They are the people who want to do it the easy way by cheesing the bosses. I just want to say you guys that think so are pathetic and just so sad. Well that is it. What you guys think? For those Hunters that do VoG, you guys are the real MVP. Edit: Thanks for all of the responses and glad to see that many people feel the same way. It is not the class that makes the group succeed, it is the person that is holding the controller. This whole Hunter Discrimination needs to stop. Edit: I am not a Hunter, yet

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  • I remember reading this back in the day. Good times. Hunter for life.

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    • Wow. What. A. Necrobump.

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      • Turn invisible to sneak up on those pesky oracles

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      • Listen Joe, I'll be honest with you. There is no such needed argument on this...period. Why do you even bother? You know what is useless? Explaining what you are trying to explain. I understand you 100%. Hunters on the raid are equally as good as any other class. Will players with a Titan or Warlock agree with this? NO, obviously. Some might and some might not. That's the way it is. The hunter is great for anything you throw at them. I'm a hunter and I rock the raid. I have many friends which are warlocks and titans, guess what? They are always sending me party invites..."Carlo can you help us do raid on normal or hard? We need you!". I'm always their for all of them when I can. I even helped them when I know I won't get any rewards from playing raid since I've done it. I help new raiders as well and show them the ropes. Whether you are a titan, warlock or hunter...you'll do just fine. All 3 classes have their perks and disadvantages. The warlock resurrectes...fine. I'm a hunter and I rarely die because of my hunter abilities. Hell, I die less than my fellow warlocks and titans (that doesn't mean they're less). People will agree and disagree...period. That's the way life is. There is no need for you to explain this. Play and have fun with your hunter. That's all you have to worry about. All classes are fun in their own way. People that criticize hunters on raids, clearly don't know...I respect them though cause it's their own view and opinion. I love my hunter and I rock with it in the raid. Have fun buddy and don't worry about others opinion, though do respect them. Go Hunters! (and warlocks and titans...lol) To me they're all great in their own way.

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        • My first time beating the Vault it was hunters, and titans.... Then there was me..... A VoidWalker. So i find hunters helpful.

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        • All I know is, every time I run VoG, people sure like having my Warlock there.... No one is ever, "We MUST have 2-3 Hunters!!!". Only great thing I have learned about Hunters is, in PVP they are murderous with the Blade Dancer perk on. PVE, Hunters are.... well... ok to Blah! And about the killing Oracles thing, I have a Vision of Confluence with the extra damage to Oracles on, which other guns have - they work fine against them. They do not appear so fast you need to 1 shot them.... Even 5-10 shot'ting them is sufficient.

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        • "Hunters are good in the Raid." "No, hunters are bad in the Raid." It all boils down to the skill and experience of the person controlling said character. This applies to [i]all[/i] characters.

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        • No. Hunters are bad. They are the worst class in the game. Bungie needs to buff Hunters. Hunters are useless, please buff them so they are more in-line with the other powerful classes.

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          • Edited by Angel_Soren: 11/8/2014 11:59:59 PM
            I'm a level 30 hunter and let me tell you how useful I can be. I can one shot detainment fields with my golden gun. (Hard Mode) I can one shot oracles. (Hard Mode) I can kill all the Hobgoblins in Mars by myself. (Hard Mode) My GG can weaken the Descendent Minotaur a level 28 can kill it with the shield. (Hard Mode) My trip mines deal 9k damage to Atheon without Time Vengeance, I spam it when it's on. (Hard Mode) My experience as a Blade Dancer makes me a natural shield wielder. As a level 30 I can one shot anything with the shield, Descended Minotaur takes 3. (Hard Mode) With invisiblity I can tell my fire team to leave and come back when I pass Gorgon's Maze. (Hard Mode) I can Blade Dance across the jump puzzle with ease and carry my fire team all the way to gatekeepers.

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          • Edited by ProNoob77: 11/8/2014 10:22:31 PM
            I will now prove how Hunters are absolutely -blam!-ing useless and shut you all up once and for all. I'll do so by countering your statements one by one. 1. Fatebringer can 2-shot oracles. Any other hand cannon can 3 Shot Oracles. Your fancy shiny gun is useless. Fatebringer 1 shots everything but praetorians in VoG. 2. Great relic holders? No. It is because hunters are literally useless that they are made to hold the damn thing. Dead weight is dead weight. ANYONE can hold the damn relic. Speed? Lol Use Speed stats on skill tree and ta-da~ The whole team spread out? cleansing them one by one? Lol it has a CD, and to begin with, why the fuk would they not come together for a group cleanse? Let alone, why would anyone be marked? (It happens yes, but the point sticks, you literally can't go running around cleansing them all 1 by 1 idiot.) 3. Supplicants die rather quickly regardless, if we're talking massive damage, sun singers can pop fusion grenades and spam them, which roughly does 9k+ damage to the 'herpes'. Solar Grenades are good to back them off and still have them be ticked away slowly, Titan Defender spike grenades and Striker Lightning grenades also help rid the supplicants rather quickly. Other than that, there's Fatebringer~ Now I will pose further details as to WHY they are absolutely useless. 1. Their melee...is a joke. Defenders can Shield, Strikers can Aoe, Voidwalker OP, Sunsinger burns + Shield. Hunter?...throwing knife...yeah...useful. Blink strike...yeah...useful... 2. Their ults are a joke. Bladedancer is useless for obvious reasons. Gunslinger's peashooter (yeah ok it hits somewhat hard, don't over exaggerate it, I know how hard it hits.) is a 3 shot chump. Compared to what the Titan (even the striker) and Warlocks have to offer, they are -blam!-ing useless. Striker's ult can at least leave/send a shockwave forward. Defender shield bubbles offer buffs. Voidwalkers nuke a large area of the map. Sunsingers literally bring 'hell' to the entire map. (Sidenote: There is currently an ongoing Sunsinger infinite revive glitch. It can be a safe precaution.) 3. Back in response to the previous #3: Their grenades are again, a -blam!-ing joke. ALL of the gunslinger's grenade options are complete shit in VoG with the exception (barely even passable) of the mine grenade which can help take out the praetorians, KEY WORD: HELP. Does not mean it takes the bugger out. Bladedancer's only redeeming grenade is the arc bolt which even then only goes off ONCE whereas a Titan's lightning grenade does MORE dmg and with the aftershock perk (which should be on at all times.) lasts and make it go off multiple times. 4. Hunters are dead weight, including in PvP. Rather than try and defend your status, preach for a buff. -blam!-ing idiots.

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            • Edited by MrWaffles1337: 11/9/2014 5:52:17 PM
              I dont want more than 2. All u need is 2. 1 titan and 3 warlocks. Thats the best team.

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              • I put down my Hunter in favor of a Warlock and honestly laugh at most of the justification here. First off, all of the GG talk about how you can 1-shot things with it.. NO. Okay congrats you can 1-shot Oracles for what, one phase? Then you're back to what, that garbage throwing knife and normal shooting like everyone else while you wait for a recharge. Invis as Bladedancer to save people or make it through Gorgons.. yea okay congratulations on your niche use that we could likely deal without in a raid anyway.

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              • I agree with everything except relic holder. Relics null the abilities of classes so it's skill and knowledge of how to use the relic over your agility claim (especially as agility only has a minor influence and other classes can adjust their agility skill). If anything someone with a weaker super should pick up relic, and gg is very useful in raid!

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              • Edited by Nietzschie: 11/9/2014 5:49:36 PM
                Need one more 30 for hard mode gatekeeper, ready to roll out. Let's go gt:Ni3tzschie

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              • I have all three characters (hunter, Titan, warlock). I've done the raid of all of them. I can tell you now that what matters is skill, not class. If you are experienced and don't die, then you are helpful. Warlocks with resonance have it easier because they can resurrect often. No other class has this. I've played with teams full of warlocks and teams without a single one. Firstly I'd like to say that the raid is so much more enjoyable without having to cheese it. If you're a hunter, you have it better off because you are more likely to have fun in the raid. Cheers!

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              • I've played as all 3 characters and I think the worst is the warlock but that's only because I haven't unlocked self revive yet so yeah my warlock blows. My Titan doesn't need self revive cuz he doesn't die with that life saving bubble and the hunters jump always gets me away from enemies

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                • Hunters gonna be nr1 in next raid Then warlock Then titan. Titan is last cuz no fire damage. We Will have our revenge in the next raid and they beg for a hunter in their team XD

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                • If people could end the fighting and think for a moment, they would realize that generally speaking, class doesn't matter as much as level and skill. Granted, each has their own special abilities to support the team and should be used to max potential in the notorious Vault of Glass. An even set of all three classes should be incorporated: two titans for team-saving shields to let people heal, two warlock sun singers to keep enemies at bay with grenades and self-resurrect in sticky situations(or void walker for mass AoE), and finally the hunter, blade dancer to cloak past gorgons or pull off revives, gunslinger to nail oracles(for quick follow ups and saving ammo) and deal great damage to Atheon and Minotaurs. Hunters may lack a bit with [u]ability[/u] team support, but what prevents the actual player from helping? [spoiler]Nothing[/spoiler]

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                • I hate my huntard and he does feel useless to me personally but thats cuz of my own preference. However hunters are just as useful as any other class. Mainly cuz any class requires u to shoot things and kill them quick. The only super thats handy is warlock's nova bombs on venus, but then again the huntard can 1 shot the first 3 oracles(4 if they r smart) while the other 2 kill the adda

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                • Because they suck xD it wouldn't matter who you use, if you have skills then you can play with any class.

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                • I swear there was an issue like this whole Hunter discrimination back in the 17th and 18th century. Now it's in our games. [spoiler]You hunters are -blam!-ed.[/spoiler]

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                • I am a hunter and I can approve this statement.

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                • 1.Destroying Oracles is easy as Hell. 2.Yeah, they're good relic holders, I'll give you that. 3.You wouldn't have to do that if the relic holder puts up the bubble. Note on cheesing, Titan's AND Hunters are useless at cheesing.

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                  • Edited by Desticle: 11/8/2014 11:43:22 PM
                    I go help random people beat gatekeeper and Atheon as a lvl 30 Hunter. It's not about the class though it's the player. That's the thing that bugs me the most. People would rather take a bad level 30 rather than a beast level 29. Even though that level 29 will put in a lot more work and be more helpful than that dumbass 30 who got lucky with gear drops. Hunter is also great for clearing out suplicants and taking dow Oracle's. Or just helping with adds

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                  • You got it right man!

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