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Edited by Joeyoungfitz:
11/7/2014 10:51:30 PM
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How Hunters are amazing in VoG
Makes me sick to see people kicking hunters out of VoG groups because they are "useless". I am going to prove them wrong. Here is how they are amazing in VoG
1. Destroying oracles fast: Got three oracles you need to destroy in less then 5 seconds or else your team die? Not a problem for a gunslinger. They can one shot those oracles
2. Great relic holders: Hunters are best fitted for the relic. They are very fast and quick. The whole team spread out and you need to cleanse them? Not a problem for the Hunter. They are also really good for in the teleporter for Atheon.
3. Clearing out enemies: Got a bunch of supplicants swarming your team on atheon? Get gunslinger and Time Vengeances and you can take out all those supplicants out. Need to help out clear enemies with the shield guy in the teleporter? Not a problem.
Now you know how they are amazing in VoG. What are they are not good out?
1. Cheesing
I laugh at the people who say hunters are useless in VoG. They are the people who want to do it the easy way by cheesing the bosses. I just want to say you guys that think so are pathetic and just so sad.
Well that is it. What you guys think? For those Hunters that do VoG, you guys are the real MVP.
Edit: Thanks for all of the responses and glad to see that many people feel the same way. It is not the class that makes the group succeed, it is the person that is holding the controller. This whole Hunter Discrimination needs to stop.
Edit: I am not a Hunter, yet
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You got it right man!
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17 RepliesIt seems to me that the things you've noted as assets of the Hunter are things that can be easily accomplished by other classes or are last ditch efforts to save a floundering team. In my experience a relic holder should not need speed, as an example. The team should come to him. Offing oracles fast is something a nice heavy weapon, especially raid found heavy weapon, can accomplish. Same for supplicants. On the other hand, nothing a hunter or even a Titan can do can match the "get out of jail free card" that is the self Rez of the sunsinger. And few things can match the wonderful ward for stopping that stupid Templar from teleporting... Except maybe an invisible Hunter. :) But overall I have to agree with the hunter-hate on this one. We just aren't as highly valued in the raid. As someone with a hunter as my primary that isn't easy to accept, but I'm afraid it is the truth. Hunters aren't useless. They can dps with the best, and are the least of a liability in the gorgon maze. But overall our abilities fall just a bit short of what the other classes potentially bring to the table. I'm personally hoping for some kind of buff that helps us out. (Couple it with the pvp nerf everyone seems to so desperately want, I couldn't care less) Or even better, maybe a third subclass that is more team/support focused.
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3 RepliesI can kill oracles on hard as fast as you with my hand cannon.. Any gun works on killing enemy's.. And grenades....anyone can hold a relic .. I honestly don't care what class you are I just don't like doing all the heavy lifting.
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3 RepliesI play as a warlock but when ever I do the VOG on hard I try and bring 1-2 hunters they are quite useful for the gatekeepers I normally solo green and they solo red. Also good for atheon as they can go on supplication patrol.
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2 RepliesBeing a warlock sunsinger seems to me like something you choose if you plan on getting slaughtered.
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3 RepliesEdited by VASiLiJE: 11/8/2014 5:33:37 PMAs a LV 30 hunter that's done Hard mode (legit) many times. I can say it is the player's skill, not the class, that matters. As a hunter in hard VoG I don't die very often, and if I do, it's usually due to a wipe. I think in this regard stats matter. Those of you decrying hunters as terrible have (from the profiles I've seen) very little VoG experience. Hunters are balanced with the other classes. If you have a group of 6 players communicating that know what to do any group of 6 could do the raid. Easy or Hard.
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1 ReplyBeat the raid with all hunters. Gorgons labrynth was easy because we all just go invisible
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11 RepliesHunters are still shit in any PVE activity compared to the other classes. It's a fact.
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My team was 5 hunters and 1 defender titan when we finished the vault on hard.
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6 RepliesTitans are the best relic holders followed by sunsingers. My atheon epilogue replaces your shitty super. All your skills are useless to the team.
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Honestly my usual raid group is 4 hunters, a warlock, and my titan and on occasion the warlock plays his hunter instead.
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2 RepliesThey are good for holding the relic while pushing the Templar off . That's about it
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Edited by Hidefininja: 11/8/2014 9:49:16 PMAlso, once you've gotten Time's Vengeance for the first time, any gunslinger hunters teleported will have golden gun and can clear the mobs in short order. Extremely helpful on hard.
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4 RepliesSo, like all the other classes they can kill enemies, wow! Your points were lacking. Hunters are great, its just atm they dont have a void subclass. I'd still take a bunch of hunters with me, but they might not be as useful for killing say a praetorian. Some people are really picky about cheesing, so theres always that.
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3 RepliesBeat it with just hunters and Titans. We did fine. And a couple of us where new to it. Quick question actually. I kept getting teleported to the relic and sometimes I would get teleported to an empty relic area and have to go back through the portal again to join my group. Ended up screwing me a couple times came out right beside antheon and getting killed.
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4 RepliesTo be fair, hunters don't have any support roles unlike both the Titan and the warlock. The gunslinger's are useful for dispatching oracle, but not so much for taking care of the relic witch is probably best suited for a warlock Sunsinger. And Bladedancers are utterly useless, sure maybe the invisibility would be considered useful but considering the fact that there's 6 people in the fireteam with "hopefully" experienced players you really wouldn't have to worry about that.
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Thanks for the love man
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[quote]Makes me sick to see people kicking hunters out of VoG groups because they are "useless". I am going to prove them wrong. Here is how they are amazing in VoG 1. Destroying oracles fast: Got three oracles you need to destroy in less then 5 seconds or else your team die? Not a problem for a gunslinger. They can one shot those oracles 2. Great relic holders: Hunters are best fitted for the relic. They are very fast and quick. The whole team spread out and you need to cleanse them? Not a problem for the Hunter. They are also really good for in the teleporter for Atheon. 3. Clearing out enemies: Got a bunch of supplicants swarming your team on atheon? Get gunslinger and Time Vengeances and you can take out all those supplicants out. Need to help out clear enemies with the shield guy in the teleporter? Not a problem. Now you know how they are amazing in VoG. What are they are not good out? 1. Cheesing I laugh at the people who say hunters are useless in VoG. They are the people who want to do it the easy way by cheesing the bosses. I just want to say you guys that think so are pathetic and just so sad. Well that is it. What you guys think? For those Hunters that do VoG, you guys are the real MVP. Edit: Thanks for all of the responses and glad to see that many people feel the same way. It is not the class that makes the group succeed, it is the person that is holding the controller. This whole Hunter Discrimination needs to stop. Edit: I am not a Hunter, yet[/quote] Me and my Hunter are a little confused. Each week I do the nightfall and as usual my mates need to revive me as i try to dance round head shoting everything (basicaly the sort of stuff a Titan is for). But as soon as we enter the vault it becomes completely different. I get twice as many kills as most of my team and pretty much do most of the reviving. My team is a great bunch and we all now our strengths and weaknesses and don't argue over who best at what, we just get the job done!
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To be fair you said nothing about blade dancers. While I have to say the invisibility is useful, it's really only best for weeklies or nightfalls when your fireteam is in trouble.
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golden gun owns vog
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I don't have a problem with the hunter class at all. My main is a Titan but I also have a hunter, ran the raid the other day with my hunter, four more hunters and one warlock. While I will say that hunter is by no means my favorite class, the raid was not more difficult or easier with all the hunters. The raids difficulty depends entirely on the players skill.
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4 RepliesIve done the hard raid with 6 hunters and it was easyyy Warlocks and Titans just mad cause they cant use the relic xD
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1 ReplyWouldn't change my level 29 hunter for anything Well maybe a level 30 hunter
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1 ReplyThis is a joke, right? You're making hunters look worse. Stop.
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Hatersgonhate.gif /waggle
