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men may be may be more prone to some types of violence, whereas women are more prone to other types. women are typically the ones that you hear of drowning or smothering their children. (not at all implying this is a common thing or limited to women) i just think that violence emanates from a thought which is fueled by testosterone or estrogen or a number of other things to mature into an act. and those acts, in my opinion, can be more common in one group than another, (whether those groups are broken down by gender or culture or a number of other qualities).
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  • So all people suck and are violent but women just do it more covertly? Any thoughts as to why people are violent toward each other in general these days?

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  • people are less violent towards each other now, (at least statistically), than every before in history. so, i don't really know...

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  • [url=http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2014/september/fbi-releases-study-on-active-shooter-incidents]The FBI is trying to say that shooting sprees have been increasing since 2013[/url].

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  • yes that is true...not overall violence though.

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  • Interesting, why do you think shooting sprees have increased but not overall crime?

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  • Go big or go home

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  • well the evidence is that violence acts have gone down significantly since the 50s. i actually didn't believe it when i first read that, but then i thought about how many people my age who have never been in a fistfight. i asked my dad and he doesn't know hardly anyone his age who didn't get into a fistfight growing up at some point or another. so looking at things like that and the incidents/population we have now I realized that violence was definitely more prevalent back then. now they weren't arrested for a fistfight back then usually, so it wouldn't have been considered a crime. so i couldn't say anything to the effect of crime having changed in one way or another from a statistical standpoint. however, i think it is because we are so repressed personally. i know that if you see a fight now that most people are practically trying to kill each other. back then, my dad says they would have been considered to just be blowing off steam, and that when a guy was down you never would've continued to try to hurt him. he also said you never would have considered trying to put someone in a move in order to break their arm or leg, because you didn't wanna really hurt the other guy...you just wanted to win the fight. and the only people that carried guns who were looked up to by the youth were soldiers. now, they can be rappers, or people in gangs, etc... that kids "wanna be like." people are also not very physically active now. you don't usually hear of a track or basketball star going on a shooting spree. it is usually someone who didn't have an extremely active lifestyle. now add that up, lack of physical activity and repression, as well as cultural influence...you start to see that someone who has no physical outlet to blow off steam becomes more and more repressed, (and it can be through legitimate means like bullying..as in that would repress most people), and they decide that "they're gonna show 'em." they see red. they go for the most destructive means necessary and want to go out in a "blaze of glory" in their own minds because they want the posthumous attention many times and just need to get so much out of their system. so it is just my opinion, but i believe it is a multifactorial problem that draws on a lot of things.

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  • Edited by explosivediahrea: 10/30/2014 11:36:32 PM
    mm. People are more distant in general nowadays. If cops didn't arrest you for fist fighting back in the day it was because of a sense of community. You figure, there're frustrations between people and if they knock each other around every now and then like you said, it'll let off steam and everything will keep running. They may even know the parties fighting if it's a small town. Everything's even more bureaucratic than community driven now than it was in the past. And people don't always just say what's up to other people on the street, they have their friends from work and school and they have cell phones so no need to communicate naturally with people met outside. Idk whether it's true that fights are more serious nowadays in terms of trying to hurt someone else. Maybe that's the way fights are with people you don't know. Cus, you don't know their mindset, you don't know their limits, you just figure they may be trying to kill me so I have to kill/incapacitate them

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  • good points. i think ultimately it comes down to....wait for it...wait for this unoriginal thought....parenting. lol. but seriously i do. our children will interpret the world, (in general), through the lenses we have crafted for them through childhood. and just like leaving a debt when you die for your children to pay, you can leave indelible marks/debts on your children's perceptions with your own mindset and prejudices; teach your child to be a racist, and he/she will carry that debt around often forever...which will cost them throughout their lifetime. it is funny to me how as a culture we experiment on children first, not knowing the consequences, before experimenting on adults. i remember a story not to long ago out of california where they said that a kid could choose the gender they identify with and use the restroom that corresponded to that gender. now, without saying anything about that concept in general, you can walk into the courthouse where that ruling was made as a man and not be allowed to go into a woman's bathroom even if you identify gender as a woman. they wouldn't allow it to happen in their courts, but they will experiment on the children. it is just sad. i am not saying anything to belittle gender identity issues, only that it is a symptom of a systemic illness in our culture to say that we will "try this out on the kids first."

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  • Yeah kids are for the most part just viewed as people who can't stand up for themselves, can't think for themselves, are less than citizens. When in reality they're usually super aware and do formulate their own opinions, (yes often based on ideals absorbed from their parents). I remember being small and people who always talk about you like you're not there. Like telling your parental figure how cute you are or how smart you are or how big you've gotten instead of looking you in the eye and saying, what's up little person, how's your day, et cetera. I gotta give my dad credit he was always straightup with me about religion, he'd say, I don't believe in it and here's why but I'm not going to tell you there's no such thing as angels or god, because I don't know, so it's up to you to make your mind up.

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  • your dad sounds like a really amazing guy. i hope to be that father to my son. he is 3 and a half, and i want him to form his own opinions, (albeit with good moral guidance of course).

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  • Word.

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