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Edited by Monkpuss313:
10/28/2014 11:21:36 PM
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A message to Deej
Alright, the patch is here. Does the feedback from people surprise you and the Devs? It really shouldn't, for the past week people were saying how this is a bad idea and how it doesn't add difficulty - but frustration. I can't tell you how many times I have wiped in this raid due to actual bugs.
Example 1: Two guardians being sent into Mars or Venus instead of Three
Example 2: Relic special not working
Example 3: Relic randomly drops and are unable to pick it up again
Example 4: Oracles not taking damage
These are real issues. A raid being out for 2 months and having mechanics that people are familiar with and able to complete the raid in coordination with one another isn't an issue. It really boggles my mind that there are real issues with this raid that haven't even been addressed.
On another note, you have promised us an upgrade (I don't have the weapons but I understand players frustration who do have them) bad juju and thorn. Seriously? It took you guys a few days to nerf Vex, oh surprise there, nerf because of PvP when it's a PvE weapon. Yet you mentioned these two weapons being below their abilities and that they will be fixed, nothing has even happened since that was mentioned nearly two months ago. The expansion comes out pretty soon so I think it's safe to assume there will be better weapons out there so bad juju and thorn will be obsolete.
I [b]USED[/b] to have extreme amounts of respect for Bungie, it seems that you guys have changed your ways however. My respect has definitely dropped since this game was released, I hope that will change but for now I just straight up don't trust you anymore.
Edit: Bump or like if you agree, hopefully we can get some sort of a reaction from the REAL issues.
Edit 2: Obviously I didn't get all the bugs in the raid, just the ones that were most noticeable to me.
Edit 3: This post has received a lot of support which I didn't even expect. Keep it coming and hopefully Deej will see this (he claims that he does read a lot so let's see if he can say anything to address these issues)
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2 RepliesBump. Bungie doesn't seem to read their own forums or listen to their fans. I think the only site they ever look at might be neogaf.
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Hey!!! Watch how you talk to Activision's new bit@#es
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1 ReplyWhile I typically do not agree with most complaints on this forum, or even all the ones in your post, I agree the raid bugs need to be addressed before things that seemed to be intentional, such as who Atheon teleports. I don't care that they changed it, but that they changed it in lieu of some very glaring bugs that cause wipes
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1 ReplyWhat about enemies regenerating health after you nearly kill them. I know none of my friends or myself can instantly regenerate health when we nearly die, so why are the enemies able to do that?
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4 RepliesThere is more than one organization at work on this, and to some extent Bungie may have made a bad choice in who they had got into bed with so to speak. There is a darkness emanating from Activision, which I am unable to clearly see, as there is little light at the end of the tunnel. I do not have the time to explain further why I do not have the time to delve deeper for the reasons and ramifications. Does Activision have a conflict of interests between Destiny and Call of Duty?.
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2 RepliesHit the nail on the head mate. Myself and clan mates wiped more times due to bugs than a mistake on our part. Particularly due to the teleporting one and the relic power not working correctly for some players randomly. The difficulty in the raid is bugs, not team work. I haven't played in a week or so now, hoping things get sorted out. But my interest is fading.
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After the patch, I haven't even been able to get passed the Templar because monkeys send me to orbit before the relic is ever dropped.
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1 ReplyDon't forget when the minotaurs regen health when they are already killed
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2 RepliesWhy even waste your time writing post like these bungie doesn't give a fk about it's customers.
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3 Replieswith the state this game is in and disconnect between the devs and player base. it makes me kinda wonder lately if activation is secretly sabotaging destiny so it wont be a threat to their precious COD series. bungie should found a different publisher or published the game on their own. if they had i wonder if the game would be different and in a lot better shape.
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[quote]Alright, the patch is here. Does the feedback from people surprise you and the Devs? It really shouldn't, for the past week people were saying how this is a bad idea and how it doesn't add difficulty - but frustration. I can't tell you how many times I have wiped in this raid due to actual bugs. Example 1: Two guardians being sent into Mars or Venus instead of Three Example 2: Relic special not working Example 3: Relic randomly drops and are unable to pick it up again Example 4: Oracles not taking damage These are real issues. A raid being out for 2 months and having mechanics that people are familiar with and able to complete the raid in coordination with one another isn't an issue. It really boggles my mind that there are real issues with this raid that haven't even been addressed. On another note, you have promised us an upgrade (I don't have the weapons but I understand players frustration who do have them) bad juju and thorn. Seriously? It took you guys a few days to nerf Vex, oh surprise there, nerf because of PvP when it's a PvE weapon. Yet you mentioned these two weapons being below their abilities and that they will be fixed, nothing has even happened since that was mentioned nearly two months ago. The expansion comes out pretty soon so I think it's safe to assume there will be better weapons out there so bad juju and thorn will be obsolete. I [b]USED[/b] to have extreme amounts of respect for Bungie, it seems that you guys have changed your ways however. My respect has definitely dropped since this game was released, I hope that will change but for now I just straight up don't trust you anymore. Edit: Bump or like if you agree, hopefully we can get some sort of a reaction from the REAL issues. Edit 2: Obviously I didn't get all the bugs in the raid, just the ones that were most noticeable to me. Edit 3: This post has received a lot of support which I didn't even expect. Keep it coming and hopefully Deej will see this (he claims that he does read a lot so let's see if he can say anything to address these issues)[/quote] Bump
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-blam!- Deej and bungie. They haven't tried to make this game better. They just make it harder and more annoying. THEY don't care about the community anymore!!!!!!
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10 RepliesEdited by bronze189: 10/28/2014 11:54:55 PMYa apparently DJ asked bungie to not do it but bungie said they don't care in DJ's comment about it. So bungie does not care about customer feed back and they think they can do whatever they want because they have a huge fan base of halo fans.[quote]So, the update just went live. Atheon can no longer be pushed off his platform. He'll also select people at random to be thrown across time. He's a real bastard, eh? I talked a lot to the developers about your opinions on the matter. You don't want to be selected at random. You want to choose who gets to fetch the Relic under fire from those nasty Oracles. I spoke on your behalf. Your voice was heard. We discussed your concerns. I even said "Why not just change Hard Mode and leave Easy Mode alone?" I was told "The Raid is never supposed to be easy." At that point, I recalled all the times I stood and delivered the line "...the most challenging encounter we've ever created." It was hard to disagree. As a veteran of Cairo Station on Legendary in Halo, I had to admit that I had been carried through the Raid like luggage assigned to my clan. I did my own carrying later, but carrying had been done. This is an activity that was designed to be undertaken by a hardcore team that is ready and willing to adapt and improvise to changing battle conditions. Like the moment when the Templar shields random players, the Final Boss was supposed to be extremely dangerous. While we've been working on some of the other things for which you've been asking (i.e. better exotics, voice chat in matchmaking, more bounties), the designers who made the Raid have plugged the holes that you showed them. If you got in on the ground floor of this thing, we thank you. If you understand the mechanics for how to beat Atheon, it's still a thing you can teach your friends. If you're all up to the challenge, the Raid is waiting for you. Let's talk about it. Please sound off in this thread, and know that I'll be reading.[/quote] This is a post from DJ
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Deej.. We are calling you out. You claim to carry our torch and allude that your are our voice, but it seems that your voice is just as lost and quiet as our collective voices. If the community loses its voice, then is it really a community? How does that fit in with the Destiny experience. Maybe its time that as a larger gaming "community" we shift to indie games, where the programmers actually listen to the community since its in their best interest.
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2 RepliesIt appears the forum works better than the game. Folks spend more time on here than playing the game. Bungie developers got it right on the customer complaint side this works great we can all participate in the development of the game they where not kidding that this game would take ten years to perfect Unfortunately over time gamers are a fickle bunch and will take there cash to the next game leaving this one
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1 ReplyMost noticeable bug to our group was the gates that don't port you. You either walk right through them without being ported, or it acts likes it's porting you but you are just straight up stuck and can't get back to the other side.
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1 Replydon't forget about teleporters just NOT working during atheon fight and the fact that you can die randomly ANYWHERE in the game and it will say misadventure even if you were solo afk nowhere near anyone or anything. (yes it's happened to me 3 times once at the tower for christ sake) There's also the fact that times vengeance won't kick on and then atheon takes forever... that's pretty annoying. How about when you get detained and then can't shoot or move until you die... THAT'S MY FAVORITE. there's also times when my gun just went invisible for about 20 minutes... THAT WAS OBVIOUSLY MEANT TO BE IN THE GAME... i've also been invisible for an ENTIRE crucible match... that was weird... maybe not for everyone else but i couldn't see myself... considering i got sniped a few times i'll assume they saw me... or got lucky
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Minotaurs regenerate health or are invulnerable at times to where they remain at 1 health and do not die. It's a huge pain on hard mode.
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4 RepliesBungie isn't the company that built one of the best sci-fi game universes in history. Not anymore. The company has gone out of their way to address PvP issue while ignoring PvE ones in a game that was marketed heavily towards the campaign experience ("Become Legend" and all that stuff). Despite working with a publisher of one of the most successful MMOs ever and claiming to have many of the features endemic to that genre, Bungie has failed to comprehend what a "Raid" actually is. They talk about things like "community" and then offer no in-game social content. They ramble about how the loot cave was ruining the economy, which consisted of me dismantling useless items for glimmer to buy ammo packs from an NPC. Bungie has failed. Worse, they don't seem to care. Established mechanics that made for a challenging but fair boss fight weren't called a bug for weeks, but now have been thrown in the trash. Actual bugs that have existed since day one have yet to be acknowledged, let alone addressed. The level of apathy from the developers is palpable.
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Why do you think there are no new content updates till December. Hi new Call of Duty game which is coming out soon. DUH! They want us to take a short break from this game so Activision can cash in. This is pretty -blam!-ed up guys. Boycott COD and boycott Destiny.
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5 RepliesI agree 100% Actual issues should have been addressed first. All they did was break the raid even more than it was before. It's rather pathetic. They didn't like that people had set roles for atheon so they call it a "bug" and change it. If it was a bug why had it not been mentioned before? Why was it programmed and tested that way? There is no way that if it was not intended that way that it could have been missed!!! How about the issue of getting detained and teleported at the same time??? That's instant death and on hard more it's a wipe And how about going through the teleporter and getting sent to another demension? A real raid breaker when you have the relic and can't get back. And all the connection issues! Bungie you have your priorties wrong! I love this game but am extremely dissapointed in your ability to fix what's broken. You take what's important and apparently throw it away and focus on shit that should be last on your list. Someone needs to be fired.
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Rip Bungie. I don't know what happened but it seems activision ruined u. Or maybe I thought too much of u to begin with. Once halo is out its only uphill from there in terms of games. I'll return for dlc Cuz I was fooled into prepaying. Earned a lot of money but lost a ton of respect.
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Bump. Please fix the real bugs first.
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Ya that only two people getting teleported happened quite a lot my last raid.
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Straight up just finished a raid and there are more bugs then before there patch .. 2 people instead of the 2 come in bungie lets get it together ...... U believe able it's frustrating to the point of -blam!- this game
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Activision would love you to go and buy CoD now - they got their money out of Destiny - they don't give a crap if we are happy so long as we buy the next game they sell. Frak Activision and Bungie
