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10/28/2014 3:36:00 PM
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If you're the type of person who thinks skipping a bosses mechanics by simply exploiting the game's mechanic to knock a boss off the edge is how the boss fight was intended to be. You sir, are the most -blam!-ing stupid person ever.
In every game, at a boss fight, the mechanics aren't just their just to be there.
They are there to either help you kill the boss or kill you, which you would then come up with strategy to avoid dieing!
For example, Time's Vengeance during the Atheon fight is suppose to increase your damage output and instantly restore grenades, super, etc... for you to damage atheon until he has no HP left.
It is not there for you to knock off a full health bar boss off the edge with it.
If the bosses HP doesn't hit zero, then you are playing the fight wrong.
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I have wiped so many damn times due to glitches. Fix the glitches that make my whole team wipe, then I'll fight fair. Because right now, Atheon is not fighting fair. Sending 1 or two people in, splash damage all up in the relic, oracles not dying, oracles all spawning at once, him hiding behind the rocks on the right side. That last one is bullshit. It's a waste of times vengeance. If we can't shoot him, how the hell are we supposed to kill him??
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However when you have multiple game mechanics at play multil,e solutions can be found by using different mechanics.
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Wow, what a stupid post......So tell me oh holy gamer.....How do you know their intent?...Who gives a damn about their intent.....We are the gamers and the only intent that we should have is to beat the game....As far as I'm concerned, it is only cheating when the system is hacked....I don't care about their intent...I am the gamer and my job is to beat the game they created as quick as possible....I don't care what they do on their end because I did not create the game....However, what I am in control of is how to beat the game......pushing him off or not we win!
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He/She didn't say they thought it was "designed that way." He/She gave their opinion. You should watch your harassment. We are all teammates in the grand design.
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It was mostly towards the commenters.
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Time's Vengance only works in Atheon, too bad I still have to unload 300bullets to kill a supplicant XD
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I started cheesing atheon after killing him legit 10 times, both on hard and normal. so, hopping into a game where a warlock pushed him off in 10 seconds is a lot better than going through that mechanic for the 30th time. Get over it.
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It may be a lot quicker, but it's not how it was intended to be.
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Wow, here we go with their intent....You will never know their intent....As the gamer it is not your job to determine their intent...The only intent of the gamer should be to beat the game any way possible.....but not cheating ex.hacking
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"Fixed an exploit where Atheon could be forced off his platform" Obviously they didn't want players to just knock Atheon off the edge. They wanted players to do the fight the correct way. Also, games like this you can never truly 'beat'. You can beat the raid and be level 30...but you will never truly 'beat' the game. Just think of your guardian's story. "We got to Atheon and got sent through a Vex Timegate and encountered countless enemies, we grabbed the relic and shielded us between Atheon's unrelenting fuel rod cannon, with my last round I pierced through Atheon's core and shattered his entire being". [b]Instead of....[/b] "We quickly rushed to Atheon and threw our grenades at his feet until he tried to sidestep out of the way...I through my second grenade! Thus, making Atheon slowly walk backwards into a pit of nothingness where he dies from falling." [b]Give me a break.[/b] You're just one of those ignorant players that get defensive about your beloved exploit, you would do anything to back it up. It's either do the fight the correct way, or don't do the fight at all. Also, if you have done the fight the correct way...good on you! Then you should know how much more exciting it is when Atheon's HP hits zero. Not when you knock him off the cliff. I'm glad Bungie patched it. I'm done here.
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Edited by THE NEMESIS: 10/29/2014 3:23:29 PMNo, just annoyed by people that forget that they are gamers trying to find a way to beat a game and some how believe they designed the game themselves and want to to discuss the "intent." That's lame......hey get over yourself....Some people are smarter... Work smarter not harder my friend.....Instead you want to criticize and ridicule and come up with excuses for not being able to beat the game....I will exploit the hell out of my opponent on any platform to win....no cheating involved
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Alright man, well bungie patched it...and looking forward to the futures patches. Have fun with Destiny.
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Edited by A260512: 10/30/2014 5:26:02 AMAtheon's fight is more exciting when it's not full of glitches. Later runs now have ended up being total glitch fests resulting in no progress, and it's an awful shame for them to make it hard enough to not just do with your friends. Gonna have to work on that, if these glitches keep getting in the way of the game, it's going into the bottom of the pile, and no dlc. Fixing exploits is fine as long as the game is glitch-free. If it's full of glitches against you, glitches in your favor aren't a bad thing. Not liking the whole 3rd best player being stuck between dimensions in the portal thing. I don't know about you, but seeing as how we aren't beating this game I want to have fun with it. Having to shoot my common group down so I can win or totally avoid the event isn't fun to me, I'll be moving on if they don't get over their crusade against players before fixing their bugs.
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Never once did OP said it was intentional. He was simply questioning how using several in game designed mechanics to accomplish something is considered a glitch to Bungie.
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I was mostly trying to reach the commenters of the forum trying to say "pushing off atheon is how they want to play the game".
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I would of preferred instead of bumpers a condition check! If Boss health > 0 and (some push mechanic check) then wipe raid.
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They could do it where it is based o n how quickly his health decreased. If his health drops to zero instantly then the raid would wipe.
