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Edited by Fenborg: 10/26/2014 11:50:46 PM
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Titan's Defender Bubble Feedback

Hello again ladies and gents. Im here with another question for you, the players! [u][b]Do you feel that the Titan's Bubble shield has room for improvement? Is it over powered, underwhelming, or is it fine the way it is?[/b] [/u] As an extremely avid Titan player, I've come to learn that my Defender's bubble can't stop everything. To start off, I will state that I play PVE almost all the time, but I also do play the PVP from time to time. Before you start stomping on my little post here, I am aware that my PVP skills in this game are quite mediocre, so no need to remind me. My goal for this post is to help get some constrictive feedback placed onto the floor by you, the Destiny community. [b]On the PVE Side, Here is a list of things I have found that the Bubble shield cannot save you from:[/b] [b][u]Psionic Blasts[/b] (its hit and miss, sometimes the shield blocks it, sometimes it does not) [b][u]Wizard Farts[/u][/b] (that noxious black cloud thing they poot at ya, I have no idea what the real attack name is but that goes RIGHT through the shield) [b[u]]Melee[/u].[/b] [b]For the PVP side, here are some things that not only go through the bubble shield, but can right properly take it out (for newer players who are Hunters take a note, this will help you take out us pesky Titans who hide in our shields)[/b] [b][u]Warlock's Nova Blast[/u].[/b] The shield will block the Nova Blast, but the actual purple cloudy blast of doom goes right through the shield and will take you out. [b][u]Hunter's Golden Gun.[/u][/b] Two or three shots and that bubble shield is GONE. [b][u]Titan's Fist of Havoc Shockwaves [/u][/b](unidirectional or omnidirectional). I'm sure there are other things out there in PVE and PVP that can get through or destroy a Defender's bubble shield, but my question to you is this. [u][b]"Do you feel that the Titan's Bubble shield has room for improvement? Is it over powered, underwhelming, or is it fine the way it is?"[/b] [/u] Me personally I understand that on the PVP side it is the way it is to help ensure that no one Super is omnipotent. It would be a bit cruddy if there was no counter for the bubble shield, then everyone would be using it. As for PVE though, I do feel that it should protect you from those nasty wizard farts, especially if you have the misfortune of combating several of them who just happened to be a bunch of majors. I also feel that in PVE, you SHOULD have the ability to melee out from within the shield. There have been more times than I care to admit where things got a bit hairy, rounds have been spent and the only thing you can resort to is a quick one two on the mob. But alas, in the panic between you and your friends who are in the shield and the mobs who are bum rushing ya, you don't land all of those blows because of that fine purple line. I digress, this is simply one mans opinion. [b]Remember, we're not here to bash on other players for their class choices and set ups.[/b] Constructive and well thought out feedback is what will help us as the community improve this game, even if it is in small little ways. I look forward to the discussions! EDIT: One thing I forgot to mention, the sound made when your bubble shield is destroyed (by a Golden Gun or Nova Bomb) has anyone noted any real significant sound being made? It's hard to tell if the shield is still there or not sometimes when you're near engulfed by Purple Nova bomb death and the bubble happens to be a similar color.

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  • There is a quick fizzle sound as the bubble fades. Honestly the bubble needs toned down a notch in pvp as it stands not even rockets can take it out. All other supers can be stopped by a sniper or a few quick rounds, but not that bubble, it just keeps going and going. It's not as bad atm though since most people aren't using saint 14 so now we have the option to go in and shotgun them, but who uses shotguns? I use fusions primarily so rarely get the option of shot gunning them.

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    • I still love it, especially when I have max armor, helm of saint-14, immobious and my chest piece that increases my armor when I have a void based sub class. I'm a tank in PVP. I take control points and hold them on my own.

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    • Edited by MiamiG95: 10/16/2015 1:10:46 PM
      lmao Wizard Farts I agree though, Ward of Dawn could do with some improvement in Crucible. An Exotic that lets you fire your weapons at enemies outside Ward of Dawn from inside would help, as that's what most Defenders seem to suggest.

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    • Worst Super Ever. If you could shoot out of the bubble it would be awesome, if you could do that if even accept if it didn't last as long. But as it stands I don't see a benefit?!!!? More than one enemy can just walk in, and let's face it, if you need the bubble your struggling, so when 2 minotaurs just walk in it's totally wasted :(

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      • I think you should be able to shoot out of the bubble

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        • There is no reason enemy players have to run into your bubble. It lacks any means of being offensive. You can not move it around. WoD is the only super you can completely choose to avoid. Ward of Dawn should be an unbreakable thunder dome where only the house wins 100% of the time.

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          • Edited by Circadian Wolf: 10/27/2014 12:25:08 AM
            I think the bubble should be able to block supers in pvp, its use is limited to holding choke points/capturing zones atm. Aside from the damage buff/extra shields that can only be used offensively with certain perks it has no offensive capabilities and in my experience the crucible moves too fast to be on the defensive.

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          • Bubbles are meant to be popped.

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            • Well fist of havoc does around 3k damage when it is used in PvP. Take into account with the over shield you are roughly around 300-340 HP. Even with the 50% damage reduction perk you still get 1 shot by about 1200 damage. Most of the time havoc is smashed into the bubble and not outside so it kills you instantly anyways. Last time I seen gold gun hit was about 980 something points of damage. That would put the bubble's hp at around 1800-2k area. So naturally when you can have up to 4 shots ya die. Also the bubble prevents the AoE damage from the impact of Nova bomb but not the lingering effects. With bubble gone and AoE lingering effects, especially vortex, you die without the 50% reduction.

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              • Nova Bomb destroys the shield and kills you. That is crap.

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                I'd rather recolor it mauve.

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              • Pfft XD f*cking wizard farts! But I do think that they should let you shoot through the bubble in PvE.

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              • Actually the shield is a gamble with golden gun shots. I've had my defender shield block 3 golden gun shots and not break. I've had it break after 2 shots and I've had it break on 3 shots. I've also had my shield survive the nova bomb that splits into 3 as in it absorbs all 3 hits and does not break and I've had it take 2 or a and break or all 3 orbs and break. That shield seems to have a health bar that we as players can't see. As I've had it out in pve and it will drop working 10 seconds because it's takeing to much fire. I've also noticed level seems to affect it as in a level 28s shield will last longer than a level 24s and I think this because during a nightfall my shield would last longer than my friends shield who was 24 at the time. We honestly need to be given atleast a general idea of the shields ability. I use the defender and I would like to have a general idea of is my shield going to break from that super hurdling at me. And I think it's fair to want to know wtf is up with the shield and its Russian roulette style protection system. I don't need to play a guessing game on if my shield will do what it's suppose to do. The way I see it the shield should work like this. It blocks the super but breaks but the defender does not die. You use golden gun well great you need all 3 shots to break it. It's unfair for it to break after receiving 2 shots just as t's unfair to absorb all 3 and still be standing. You wanna nova bomb it fine it breaks but any special effects are canceled so no dark space cloud that damages over time. You wanna use the splitting one fine as long as it takes splash damage from all 3 then it breaks not this one hits it breaks and the other two kill the titan or 2 hit and the last kills the titan or all 3 hit and titan is fine and shield survives. You wanna fist of havoc that's great but your super will hit the shield not this you jumped through and hit me and when you hit the shield it breaks and your super is done. You have one of the shock wave powers that activates when you land sorry that's not enough to break the shield. And if you enter my shield and use the super that's fine if I'm inside I die so nova bomb and I'm in my shield with you fine I die. But if you nova bomb inside the shield and I leave before it lands then I survive just like if you did it outside and I was in the shield. As for blade dancer that's fine that's a Melee attack and they have to actually enter the shield to kill you so that's okay. My point is the shield should do what a shield does and with the game it doesn't it breaks when hit with a super making the defender die. That's not a shield. The shield should absorb the super and break neither the defender titan or the attacker should get an advantage. That's how it should be. It's suppose to negate the super not half ass negate the super and you die or agro defend you and absorb the super and still stand. If the super hits it breaks the shield and know it's as if the shield and super were never used. Not some stupid my super broke your shield and killed you that's bullshit and bungie knows it. Neither should it absorb the super and make the attacker feel like they wasted the super on the shield. But I'm repeating myself a lot. So in short shield negates the super and neither side gets and advantage.

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              • I think its fine as it is

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              • I think it just needs to take slightly more damage in pvp. 2 golden gun shots to destroy is a joke.

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                • I don't use it in PVE really, as far as PvP goes it's pretty balanced. Although it's kinda dumb how a nova bomb destroys it (does no damage to players inside) but a fist of havoc goes right through the roof and a hunter with arc blade can walk right through? That's dumb. Someone with arc blade shouldn't be able to just walk in and two hit you and a fist of havoc should have the same effect as a nova bomb. That being said for PvP, it's a great super.

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                • Also if you know of anything else that can cause damage through the shield/destroy the shield that I have failed to mention, please let me know and I'll add it to the above mentioned list.

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                • Nerf defenders; NERF THE WORLD!!!!!!!!

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                • The fact grenade AOE can seep through it is pretty dumb. I only use Striker in PVP b/c Defender is just overall weaker, the melee "Force Barrier" requires you kill the target, if you don't you just wasted your melee lol...f**king dumb, whereas a warlock gets Flame Shield (basically same thing) just for hitting a target...fair...f**k you Bungie. Everything beats Titan Defender shield that is not very rock,paper,scissory.

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                  • It is very good as it is. In Pvp if you use it well you can get 2-3 kills from it. All you need to do is choose the ability when you get the shield INDIDE THE FREAKIN SHIELD and use a shotgun. Some noob is going to walk in one day.

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                  • It can be very strong, which is why it has a few drawbacks. Warlock vortexes and wizard dark clouds go through mostly because of the way they work rather then because of intention. I would like it if titan fist of havoc wouldn't pass straight through because there is no defense for that, but if they bounced or just hit the barrier with it, then that would greatly weaken that power. The ward power is probably close to its best version as it is. Changing it in certain ways would lead to a very troublesome imbalance.

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                  • In pve u should be able to shoot through the sheild at enemies and enemies shouldnt be allowed to enter it either. As for pvp i dont play it so i dont care. Btw i dont play as titan and dont even have a titan made. I just think in pve the bubble shield should have thiose 2 things.

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                    • I think its if a super hits the shield it should break while the wizard poison can barely hurt you if you have armor of light or maybe the other one that gives you a shield

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