This post is definitely aimed at people with your mentality. I don't even want to do VoG for the first time because all I see in posts is people moaning about people who don't know the raid inside out. How are we supposed to learn about it if we don't don't for a first time. I've even tried watching YouTube videos but figure I'm actually just spoiling my enjoyment of the game by doing so

See the difference between me and the "moaners" on this forum is I actually have friends that I do the raid with every week. Now see if we are talking about doing it on lvl 26 then I have no problem teaching but if you are going into a lvl 30 raid with no experience than you are an idiot. I have helped plenty if people on lvl 26 raid but when it comes to lvl 30 and you have zero experience than don't even bother asking because that is just a waste of time. People that don't like to help is very understandable. No one wants a player who is constantly causing a wipe because they cannot seem to stay alive for more than 30 seconds. Go find some friends that will do it with you every week and stick to it.

The real problem here is that your original post made no mention of hard raid versus easy raid. All it says is that you don't want to run the raid with people without experience. This led to the misconception that you were talking the raid in general, not just hard (which is what you said), which led to negative feedback, which led to your negative comment to the people that replied to the post. Therefore, please actually check to make sure that your comments are not missing important words like "hard raid" so we can not have pointless arguments.

A raid is a raid. Wether it is on normal or hard. People don't want someone who can't follow instructions or coordinate or even stay alive. Simple as that. Any raider would know how important those qualities are.

People only die because A) they have no method of communication and so can't be told information (where the question is more of a why do you have someone who can't communicate in the raid) or B) they aren't properly informed about the dangers and how to counter them. Heaven forbid I actually spend 5 minutes explaining a part of the raid before throwing them into a new section. And while I haven't beaten the raid on hard (mostly because I haven't found a group ready to give that much time and treat it any differently than normal raid), I have ran the normal raid six times in one day. And there is a big difference between the two. Normal raid can be carried by four people. Hard raid? Not so much.

You go spend 2+ hours on one checkpoint because one guy cannot stop dying no matter how easy we make for him/her. I was at the confluxes for 4 hours mostly because the same guy kept dying over and over again. We even told him to stay at the spawn and he still managed to die up there.

Done Atheon for 6 straight hours. Also, If 5 of you can't do confluxes on normal, that's a little disappointing. Finally, if you're going to say "it was hard", again, that's a completely different scenario

I beat the raid raid in less than an hour with people who knew what to do and know how to stay alive. I was referring to a moment where we had someone who had no idea about the importance of being alive in order to help the team move along. Also don't even get me started on the oracles because that shit is a mess to inexperienced people. I will never allow an inexperienced player to join my fireteam for a hard raid I also forgot to mention that, that situation I mentioned was on hard. Total time spent doing the entire raid on hard took about 8-10 hours. Not all at once though.

Hard raids are not for first timers, as I've been saying since the beginning. Hard raids are for people who have beaten it time and time again on normal. My best time for a raid was 52 minutes (normal). Aetheon took less than 6, no cheesing him off the map. My Aetheon struggle was on normal. Oracles are only a problem on hard (which, again, I don't suggest to inexperienced players). Finally, The raid can pretty much be run through on normal with no hiccups with 4 people. Having two inexperienced people is not that big of a problem if the other four know what to do. Then those 2 get some experience, they can start getting better, and, given enough time and the ability to be smarter than a maze rat, eventually be ready for hard. One last time, YOU WILL NEVER SEE ME ENCOURAGING SOMEONE WITH NO EXPERIENCE TO DO THE HARD RAID. The point of this thing in its entirety is that there is a large difference between 26 and 30 raids, and that helping people learn on 26 is the proper way to go, that most of the issues have been with you not saying that your philosophy of not helping newbies in the raid only applies to hard and not saying that the experiences you have had have mostly happened on hard. Bring a newbie into hard and you get what you ask for. I have a minimum of 5 raids complete before someone can join me on a hard raid, and even then I don't do it very much because people don't want to take it seriously.