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originally posted in: A reason why AR nerfs won't work
10/14/2014 12:30:47 PM
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Noobs with shotguns and snipers, who cant handle an AR, cry because they get owned. The reason is not the AR but them sucking. They blame ARs, its always the weapon they dont use themselfs. The reason why is they cant handle the recoil and use 1shot kill weapons. So now stability gets nerfed for this. They dont use it anyway so who cares... The users do
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  • So tired of seeing people call other people noobs when their KD isn't even above 1!!

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  • "This account has not played Destiny".

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  • So tired of people thinking KD matters, it's only n00bs who care about such a meaningless stat.

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  • ARs are over powers cuz they do the same damage with the same range as pulse rifles and scout rifles but ARs have higher fire rate

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  • What's noob about sniping?

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  • When you cry because you got killed by a higher skill player using an AR. N00b

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  • You KD in all of the playlists isn't as high as 1.0 Keep your -blam!-ing mouth shut

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  • Lol...only n00bs care or even look at KD. I bet I have at least 3x more objectives taken than you. KD is a fools stat, I can go 4-1 every match and have a 4.0 KD, but that doesn't make me a valuable asset to a winning team. Besides, the only viable use for the crucible at this point is to complete bounties. So if you care about KD THAT much you are a real COD kid try hard n00b. Congrats

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  • I don't play cod. Thanks for assuming to make yourself look even more stupid. Caps done even get you the win in destiny. So even if you had more than me it wouldn't matter. Kills give more points. Why don't you stop acting like a hot shot on forums when you suck at the game. You're making excuses now because I called you out. You actually spell noob with 0,s and then call me a try hard.

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  • Edited by Synthiate: 10/16/2014 8:42:47 PM
    And what if they get killed by a "higher skill player" with a HC? Or Scout Rifle? Or Pulse rifle? Why don't they whine about them? Why is almost all the whining focused on ARs? If you say "Because pros only use AR:s" I'm going to laugh.

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  • I always thought pros using ARs was a pretty viable reason at least in other games. What's your reasoning for thinking otherwise? I'm just curious.

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  • De facto is: The better player should win most of the time, either by equipping themselves better for the situation, or simply aiming better. A player using any other weapon than AR is usually in disadvantage against an AR, no matter the crucible map. Of course, with skill, one can close the gap quite easily (The best crucible player I know uses HC primarily, and takes out his SUROS only when fed up) Only Bastion and First Light have ranges great enough to make the other weapons more viable... But by then you can just have a sniper as a backup. Yes, certain type of pros do use AR:s, outside of the people who actually like AR:s. The ones who know that it's the optimal solution, and use it ONLY because it's the optimal solution. The Min-Maxers. And yes, Min-Maxing is a valid option, but it easily takes away fun away from others. And, I made another topic about this, and the most important part from that is: It's not the weapon, it's the map. The maps don't have enough range variety to bring out other weapons' strengths.

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  • Well said. The one thing I do believe is that the min-maxing you mentioned happens more so than the latter. The human instinct to dominate completely trumps that of the desire to have fun. The fact that someone is required to whip out a SUROS just to compete when challenged instead of maintaining the HC, points out that one is superior to the other. As you stated. I guess my point to saying it is. A player shouldn't have to do that. Not like we are being forced to. But it seems the most reliable weapon in the majority of combat scenarios is the AR. It's less stress on someone's brain when using a weapon that requires less motor function to use. (Hold down trigger and follow target vs tap trigger, manage harder recoil control, while following target.) It's not nearly as bad as the gap is in battlefield where ARs do everything better. But it's noticeable.

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  • No weapon should have as much or more range as a sniper.

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