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Edited by killakidz7:
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Petition: PvE & PvP changes should be separate - Was patch effect on PvE good? - Devs Please Read!
----Please be sure to read the description of this thread BEFORE casting your vote. It might clear up some of your questions (if you have any)----
[b]Please continue to vote on this.[/b] This needs to stay relevant so Bungie is always aware of what the PvE community wants! As more patches/events are released, I shall release a thread pretaining to each. Saying what I agree with, what I don't & what I think should be changed. These threads will probably be polls (similar to this one).
Special thanks to TalonsEdge (and all the others), cheers bro. We've made a difference!
http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/73593613/0/0
Meaning that the changes in PvP won't affect PvE and vise versa.
Please comment your opinion!
As per TalonsEdge (Thanks again! [Added line for clarity])
"[Voting #2 means that] This current patch should be reconsidered and redone with consideration to making many if not most of the changes affect PVP only and not change them in PVE". Not only that but what is actually stated in #2.
Please keep in mind this is not only about this hot-fix but about ALL later ones as well!
As this has gotten so huge (the percentiles won't change too much at this point), I request that you comment your choice in addition to selecting an option. 1 = yes, 2 = no, 3 = community poll. Just so its easier to see what the community wants. Cheers all!
My buddy TalonsEdge just made a post with a detailed list of possible improvments to Destiny. PLEASE take a look guys!
http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/72944584/0/0
What will take to receive an offical reply from Bungie on this subject? This thread alone has over 750 comments and over 3000 votes. What more can they ask for? Honestly, the community has spoken. Here. On this thread. Your move, Bungie. If you don't act, you risk losing a large percentile of your fan base. You risk losing those that planned to play your game for years. Sorry to say this however the PvP side is just along until the next Battlefield or CoD comes around. Then what? You'll be left with (majorly) a pissed PvE community primarily because you didn't listen to us. Apparently to Bungie (this is evident because of the most recent patch/hot-fix), the PvP community has a larger say in what happens in Destiny. We (the PvE community) should be treated fairly and have equal say in Destiny.
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Without you all, this never would've happened. We talked. Commented. Voted. And... Bungie listened. The community spoke & Bungie answered.
Fellow Guardians, hope is not lost.
Destiny is not lost.
It is, quite simply, what we make of it.
We can mold it; make it our own (within reason).
This opens up a plethora of possibilities.
Thank you to the countless that participated. However, a few of you deserve special reconigition. TalonsEdge and NEWBIE. Without them, this wouldn't have been possible.
The countless PMs between Talons & I debating what our next move should be. Bouncing ideas, not-so-patiently awaiting a reply from someone from Bungie, awaiting feedback, changed what we thought needed to be changed, the list is honestly endless. He's had as much involment in this threads development as I did.
Thank you!
Lastly, I want to give thanks to the people over at Bungie. Thank you for listening to us. Whoever was responsible for getting this noticed, I invite you to come forward & receive the praise you rightfully deserve.
I have not lost faith. Neither should you.
-killakidz7
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Edited by GURKY BOY: 10/18/2014 2:04:41 AM2. Please bungie read this an sort it out with different setups for pvp / pve, nerf'in all guns because of the crucible complaints is ruining the raid and pve challenges. Never played wow but rift, look it up, that's got different loadouts depending on pvp /pve, it just makes sense as complaints /fixes only affect one game mode. Good post btw guys.
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Edited by TalonsEdge: 10/18/2014 1:02:04 AMGood job. Thanks people and thanks Bungie. Seems they are now considering PVE and PVP independently and appropriately in balancing. To any newcomers who have not voted [b]please still place your vote[/b], so that bungie knows with any future balancing patches to continue to consider both PVP and PVE, ensuring that things are well balanced in both modes, preventing inappropriate nerfing OR buffing in one game mode when it is only needed in the other. The higher the numbers here the better it will serve as future reference. Thank you everyone.
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The only weapon change that needed done for PVE was the scout rifle buff (which was even partially a nerf itself because of the handling and recoil changes, but at least scout rifles do more damage and actually feel kinda like a semi auto rifle far as dmg). Far as auto rifle stability and all that - it should have been crucible only modifiers, not an across the board change.
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Still waiting for bungie to fix my Vex in PvE
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Come on guys... keep this alive!
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2 RepliesEdited by Night Owl: 10/17/2014 11:01:57 AMI really take issue with amount of preferential treatment the PVP community is receiving in Destiny. Especially given that the Co-op PVE is the foundation of this game. It is the basis for their advertising campaign and all the media hype preceeding its release. The PVP was mentioned as a feature. This was a game designed for PVE'rs. An opportunity for those of us that like to immerse ourselves in a fictional universe to get together and share in that. The PVP was meant as an opportunity to hone our skills and show off our spoils. Our particular style of play (event grinding) was meant to be the crux of the endgame and should be rewarded accordingly. If the PVP players don't like it, then they should join us and work for their gear. We'll be happy to have their skills on our fireteams! Bungie has lost sight of its original target audience (according to the last couple of years worth of developement interviews).
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PvE content should not be balanced based on PvP UNLESS the ENTIRE PvE content is rebalanced as a result.
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2 Replies. dear bungie. if there is a way i can give you back this version of destiny and get a fresh destiny that dose not have pvp in it to ruin my 100% pve focused game, id buy it. .
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Keep this alive....
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12 RepliesThey won't do it. This coding team isn't talented enough.
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1 ReplyYes. This. Thank you. My AR was doing 90 for crits on, say, the Tank on the Cabal strike. Now it does 74, because in Crucible the AR is favored due to ease of use. Make Crucible more segregated. Seriously.
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1 ReplyIf any complaints about crucible are to be voiced- its that it sucks. I had a blast in iron banner. I could kill people in iron banner. I felt a better balance, more even footing. I dont know what parameters the crucible has to "level" players but it doesnt, not even close. Funny that i can maintain ,at least, a 1.0 KDR in iron banner and barely eek a 0.3 in the crucible and that would be a good game. Keep iron banner specs live in crucible (as an option). I just deleted an exotic bounty because im not trying to kill 500 people. I dont want to be bothered by the stupidity that is the crucible
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7 RepliesFully agree! Love my pocket infinity! But crybabies in pvp change the game. It is a PVE game... So why are nerfs happening cause of pvp Just change things for pvp
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2 RepliesPro PVE It's a PVE game with PVP modes. Change of weapon perks only if needed for PVE. This game is not made for PVP matches like COD or Battlefield.
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1 ReplyYes i feel that 98% of the complaints about weapons being OP where from the pvp community, not too much from the pve community, they should just have made the patch for the pvp side of the game and left the weapons just how they are in pve, because now the pvp community are some what happy, but now all we get is the pve community complaining and saying wtf bungie, because they did the nerfs across the board, so now all those weapons they spent days to get and long nights in the raid, were now pointless and they all feel robbed of there hard work and dedication to the game. What i think is that they should have made it where your character whould have a complete different life in pvp and pve, if ur a pvp type of person, then ur character would have all pvp weapons and gear, that would not exist in the pve world, also ur level and experience would only be in pvp, then once you step into the pve world, ur character would be at level 0 in the pve world, and would only get pve weapons and gear, just to keep things more balanced between the two worlds of destiny, just so that once a person knows of a "OP" weapon in the world of pve would dominate in the pvp matches, that would not happen, pvp weapons and gear stay in pvp, pve weapons and gear stay in the world of pve, just as simple as that. Also bungie should make the match making of the pvp little more balanced by keeping all the levels at the same level, like ur first time going into pvp, you would be placed in a server where its only levels 1-10 then after level 10, you would then be placed in a room with levels 11-20, and so on. That would help keep things on a more even playing field.
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The only way you will get them to listen is to boycott the game for 24 hours, but I fear only a handful will go do it . PvP is ruining gaming by creating perks kill streaks and supers ... Bring back socom
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Fusion rifles should be removed from pvp at least green/blue ones!
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Destiny had its flaws. Everyone that like the game could easily just look past them since the game was still a good game. We all wanted this game to be great.We all know this was a different type of game for you and we pray that the flaws that can't be fixed in destiny well in destiny 2. The VEX Mythoclass a gun that needed a small nerf in pvp. The gun of myths that legends should form from is nothing more but a wall ornament a trophy even more worthless then the aspect of glass. If they can't fix the balancing issues for PVP and PVE they will never get out of the sinkhole they voluntarily fell into. I pray they do and we know there will still be bumps after this and maybe even some falls. But if they can't get out of this one personality I will never buy a bungie game again!
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1 ReplyBump.
