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Edited by BLUENINJA: 10/13/2014 6:47:08 PM
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Raid gear SHOULD NOT be the only way to level 30!

Something that everyone I talk to agrees on yet no one seems to point out online, is the downright terrible decision to make raid gear the only path to level thirty. Perhaps you've already heard this before and no longer care, but I challenge you to. this is a flaw that needs to be fixed, for several reason. 1. It nullifies ALL FIVE FACTIONS. Are you really telling me that every single one of those legendary armories the five factions have were [i]stepping stones[/i]? You bust your bottom to get all that gear, only to be left once again at the mercy of the RNG? 2. we BUSTED OUT BOTTOMS to get that gear! I didn't spend literal days in the crucible getting all those marks for you to tell me that I have to give them up if I want to be level thirty! That is unacceptable! In fact it's downright disheartening. We didn't work that hard to have it surmounted by a couple hour long raid. 3. Save a shader and one gear piece, everyone would look the same. looking the same as everyone else should NEVER be the goal in an RPG, that's ridiculous. So we get one exotic armor, and a shader to look unique. otherwise we have literally the same armor as everyone else. Honestly how did that slip through the cracks during development?? 4. What about future raids? assuming you get different raid gear in future DLC raids, that means you have practically nullified one or more perks on your fancy VOG raid gear. Now, if the level cap goes up, fine, that makes sense. But if it does not, you now have armor with useless perks. I'm not saying raid gear should be on par with faction armor, not at all. It SHOULD be better. just in different ways, perhaps granting lesser bonuses to all three attributes, instead of a specialized two like most legendary armors, or make the raid armor require one less defense upgrade to reach max stats, making it easier to upgrade than faction armor. There are ways to make raid armor special. But giving it exclusive access to level 30 was a terrible decision. I've built an entire play style around my armor, one that won't work with raid armor. In fact, seeing as there's basically only one armor, MOST peoples play styles don't fit. How is that ok? leave a comment stating you're own thoughts. Hopefully they will understand the problem with this decision, and fix it soon. EDIT: Thank you for your feedback. It seems that some like the raid system, but others are frustrated by the "exclusive" nature of the raid armor. So, allow me to reign in my thoughts to this: customization. Perhaps the biggest downside of the raid armor is the fact that there's only one set. So "your" guardian, as bungie advertised, is really just the same guardian as evey one else minus one equipment slot and a shader. Bungie advertised that the character was YOUR guardian, that you were unique, but if you want to be the best, bungie wont allow you to be unique. This is my biggest complaint. perhaps this won't change until the DLC comes out, and if so, oh well, I still believe they need to fix this.

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  • I completely agree

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  • You don't have to raid to get to 30. I'm 30 on my way to 31, and have never successfully got a group together to complete the raid

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    • It isn't anymore

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      We agree. Help is on the way in the form of Lord Saladin. Sorry if this was mentioned already, but I wanted to say it, too.

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      • Yes raid should be the only way to get lv 30

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      • [quote]Raid Gear should not not be the only way to lvl 30![/quote] yes it should, stop crying -blam!-

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      • Why should faction armor be better than raid gear? One is easy to do, the other is harder and RNG. Flawed logic you got there.

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        • Fear not, you will be able to get to 30 with the new "buffed" armor coming out in DLC. More defense=more light, more light=level 30.

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          • Yes it should be only way to 30

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            • New 30 gear will be sold by all vendors come DEC 9th

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              • There are at least 2 to 3 other arnor sets coming out on december 9th thay will get you to 30 chill out bruh

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                • WTF IS GOING ON BUNG AND WHY IN THE FCUK IS XUR SELLING THE PLAN C AGAIN WTF BRING THE GHORN BACK BUNG MAY NEED TO START MAKING GAMES FOR XBOX AGAIN Now no exotic engrams from XuR WTF bung no wonder halo sucked!

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                • Level 30 is not supposed to be an easy thing to get to. You should not be able to buy gear that will get you to the max cap, otherwise it takes away from the game, it makes it cheap and easy to get to the highest level of Destiny. I just hit 30 the other week and it's only because I've poured a lot of time and work in the game, I've felt accomplished because of it and I was a little irritated that they're now going to allow you to get to 30 with iron banner gear. It's supposed to be a challenge, it's not supposed to be easy to hit the max level, and the raid is the hardest challenge in the game so it's only right that the gear you get there is the only way to get to 30. That is all

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                  • Agreed should be able to take any piece of equipment and make it stronger, it would just take longer depending of starting quality. Ex: take cool looking green tier boots and up grade them to legendary tier would be longer. Also should be able to change perk on armour depending on player preference for a price. Now that would be cool!

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                  • I beg to differ, lvl 30 is meant to be an achievement. VOG is hard and it should be.

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                    • Agreed

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                    • @DeeJ_BNG Game Informer got it straight. Player reactions to some of the information is what is wrong.

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                    • Edited by TOKYODISNE: 12/5/2014 6:58:40 AM
                      Lord Saladin is the only hope. 30s' running around with sub 1500 grimoire scores. Never touched a scout rifle until it was the Vision of Confluence. Can the 85% of the entire destiny community who haven't earned a raid completion trophy for whatever reason have a chance to earn our relevance?

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                    • Agreed. Stupid that raid gear is the only way

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                    • I think that raid gear should be any gear to keep custom looks alive and kicking. I think that, say if i do a raid i beat the damn thing, if you beat it you get 4 raid fragments. One raid fragment can be used to make armor raid gear and for shits and giggles a raid weapon. But say you don't ever beat atheo but you got that far.. then in the next Destiny week you get 1 raid shard, not fragment, a shard and it takes 2 shards to equal one frag. Meaning the sooner you can beat it awesome you get your shards but if not it will take you some time to acquire your shit, i personally have not acquired the raid gear but i also cant find a team that can communicate effectively so we lose coordination and strategy.

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                      • Edited by fluffywasp: 11/4/2014 12:08:59 AM
                        I enjoy both pvp and Pve in all mmos. Yet raiding has always been the way to get the highest gear as they are the hardest challenges. The problem here is the limited raid gear. I for one have no issue with this yet it seems that a lot of people enjoy their current pvp based gear. The best solution in my opinion as stated by many here is the introduction of light shards or whatever into raid drops where they could be used to upgrade pvp gear to +30 light. This seems to keep the raid as an 'ultimate goal' but adds the ability to be level 30 using armour for pvp.

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                        • You can get it through Iron Banner chill man

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                          • Thee level cap increases

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                          • Agree. In a game with a stated life of 10 years then progression thru levels only makes sense and having more than one way to progress thru these levels makes sense as well. Now supposedly the DLC s to include higher level strikes and a higher level Raid with new gear that will level to 32 then this is proof that the game will progress as well over its life span. So how will this get accomplished? Will they offer gear and weapons thru existing vendors that will allow leveling thru 30 and beyond? Will they enable matchmaking for the Raid to open up the possibility of being able to acquire raid gear for everyone? Will they fix the RNG and offer more achievement based reward system for completing the Raid for example? Seems at the present time Bungie has kind of painted themselves into a corner by making level 30 attainable in only 1 way and judging from the forums this is becoming a bigger and bigger issue. Solutions? Guess we have to wait to see what Bungie has planned. Hopefully they do have a plan. My idea would be a DLC that would allow for crafting of weapons and gear using mechanics already existing in the game, this would allow for more customization and activities in the open world as well as a method to achieve higher light levels for ALL players.

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                          • I just wish you could just do a search for the raid like you do for strikes and be able to pick a mic or no mic group

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                          • Raid gear should have attributes to help in raids an that's it. there should be ways in pvp and more ways in pve to reach max level and much more variety in faction gear

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