My bro and I have never even attempted the vault because we wanted to experience the fun of a first time run as an actual first time run and not a bus ride with elite veterans. We've honestly not even looked anything up about it, so other than the spire, I couldn't tell you anything about the vault. I don't know when we'll be able to play next, hopefully this weekend, but if anyone wants to do a run with a couple of people who want their first time to be an experience and not just a loot grind, feel free to send us a message. PSN Doublenought_7 - 28 Sunsinger Jawdog - 28 Bladedancer