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I think a lot of people dont understand how shotguns work in FPS games. Just like COD, the shotgun is a powerful weapon in CQC in Destiny. What people dont realize is that this weapon is MEANT for CQC which is why it is preferable and most often used on those types of maps. I have seen arguments in the COD forums where people b*tch and complain about how shotguns are "ruining the game" and are "OP". Just like here, I think those who think that are really just full of sh*t and are complaining because they expect to just run around without a care in the world and not think. Shotguns are only useful in CQC environments. You get a shotgun on an open map or open portion of a map and that thing is next to useless. It is a CQC weapon and it was MADE to be such. I really think that those who complain about shotguns just dont understand the concept of CQC battle and the weapons best suited for it.
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  • Why use a shotgun in the first place? Why not everyone just use a gun that takes skill? This community is shitty, always trying to look for the easy and cheap way out. Ppl suck at aiming so they resort to using a shotgun to compensate for their lack of gunskill

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  • Because there is a thing called "strategy" and "tactics". Which require you to Think and not just react.

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  • Strategy is the excuse people use to cover up their lack of aim, why shotgun them when you can be a god and outgun everyone with hard work on your aim

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  • ROFLMAO. You sound like Enzo Ferrari when he said, "Aerodynamics are for people who don't know how to build engines." He was wrong to. I'm 46 years old, and running around trying to out-twitch 15 year olds whose nervous systems are the fastest they will ever be in life is just STUPID. The point of strategy is not for me to try beat you at your strength. But to manuever you in to trying to beat me at my strength. Which for me are mid to long range fights. Where my age no longer disadvantages me. So instead of trying to shame people into doing what you want try using smarter tactics that keep you out of shotgun range. Which is what I do...and why I seldom get taken out by one.

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  • No. What people are taking advantage of is the general stupidity that people portray when playing FPS games. Much like what YOU are doing with that statement. Most people that say what you said usually just run around without checking corners or thinking whether or not someone is in a certain spot waiting. Those who run around just expecting to "run and gun" are the ones i usually see copmlaining about shotgun users. And you talk about skill as if it means something in a video game. Anyone can grab up a weapon and get a kill with it so there is no such thing as "gun skill" in these kinds of games. Just like there is no skill in COD. Its about strategy. If you are about to go into a CQC area, then you MUST realize that SOMEONE is going to have a weapon that excels in that area of combat. If you dont, that is YOUR own stupid fault for rushing in there.

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  • This is the excuse all shotty noobs hide behind. Oh we play tactically, oh you just run around, like no. Answer the question why do you use a shotgun? And yes there is skill in aiming otherwise gunfights would all be random -_- if you suck at aiming just admit it. Any kid in this game can blink shotty + melee you from a good distance, there's no being smart about that. Learn to aim

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  • Nonsense. The only way you get taken out by a shotgun in this game is if you do something really stupid. If you're really good nobody gets close enough to hit you with one.

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  • Play skirmish and come back to me bud

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  • Here is the answer to your question.....i DONT use a shotgun. Didnt see that coming did ya? I may have used a shotgun maybe once or twice, but that is it. I dont even use shotguns in COD unless i feel like messing around. But at the same time i understand that a shotgun is most optimal for CQC as it is BUILT for CQC. Even when i die by shotguns i dont get mad because they do exactly what they are supposed to do and if i am in range, then i have no excuse. Unlike some people here, i dont make excuses for why i die. I see what i did wrong and try not to make the mistake again. What i DONT do is blame someone else for my death when all they are doing is playing with what they want. That seems to be the fad, "oh someone killed me? I have to complain about their tactic or weapon so i make it look like it wasnt my fault." I hear this all the time in COD lobbies. Someone gets mad because someone beats them so they have to make excuses for why they died because they dont want to take responsibility for their own inability to think strategically. That is what a lot of players do. That is obviously what YOU are doing.

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  • You provide no explanation for blink shotgun melee. That's not outplaying someone idgaf, you don't know fps if you think a game having more shotgun users than other weapons is not a bad thing.

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  • Edited by F3nix13: 10/29/2014 3:57:24 AM
    You want to know how to outplay someone? its not that -blam!-ing hard moron. You find the areas that these people are known for being in and you use (that scanning tactical equipment thing which i dont know the name since i never used it) and you throw it in there to see if anyone is waiting. Or you could just throw a regular grenade in to see if you get a hitmarker. THAT is how you outplay them. And you CANNOT blame the "blink shotgun melee" on the shotgun. Dont try that bullsh*t. The Blink is an ability and that is it. So people combined it with a setup that gets them kills....SO WHAT? You cant sit there and honestly think that people wont come up with any kind of setup that would inevitably make you mad? But again, if you would THINK just a little bit, i know you could come up with a strategy against them. But then again that requires you to think which, judging from this argument, you do little of. I DONT think it is a bad thing and here is why, shotguns have NOT been given the credit they deserve. If you look at most of the FPS games that have come out in the years and even with COD, you would see that hardly ANYONE uses shotguns. Why? Because not only are there barely any maps that can support them, but also because more people are concerned about getting mid-long range kills so they mostly opt for the AR, LMG or Sniper rifle classes. A lot of people do use SMGs but that is because they have better range than a shotgun. YOU clearly dont know about FPS enough to know that. I have had arguments like this in the COD forums for years, and i have played COD for 7 years now and through that experience i can tell you that you are no different than all the other complainers i have come across that dont know what they are talking about.

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  • Played cod for 7 years lmao I'll whoop that ass son. Only non skilled kids defend shotguns. They shouldn't exist at all there's no purpose for them. A shotgun kid gets kills he shouldn't deserve. Why would anyone use them unless they know they need that boost to compensate for lack of skill. I want a community where people have to use skill, not hiding with radars on and when u turn a corner hoping for a gunfight it ends up being a shotgun. You're trash for this don't pull the stupid card on me just because you lack skill, we could do wager matches on cod right now if you want

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  • Edited by F3nix13: 10/30/2014 7:38:24 PM
    Look, i have played more than just COD. I have played BF and Halo. I just put COD out there because that is the the one I played the most. So you are calling me a non-skilled kid? I dont even use shotguns unless i feel like messing around and that isnt often, maybe once or twice every few months. No purpose for shotguns? It is a CQC weapon used in CQC areas. Id say that is PLENTY of a reason to use it. Kills he shouldnt deserve? How is it that players fault for an enemies inability to think ahead to make sure someone is not already in that area with a weapon that could possibly kill him faster? Boost? Really? Even with shotguns you can get your ass kicked. On maps that are more open than closed, a shotgun has no purpose and you wouldnt do well with it. I AM pulling the stupid card on you because you are only mad since you cant think on your own and you are deciding to b*tch and complain instead of playing tactically. And i am calling you stupid for a second time because I DONT USE SHOTGUNS MORON! I am defending its use because i understand the concept of CQC battle which you are clearly too -blam!-ing retarded to understand because you are too mad that you are dying by something you refuse to think about countering. Just because you are getting mad doesnt mean they are cheating. You are just trying to make it look like its their fault just so you dont have to take responsibility for your own inability to outplay them. This conversation is done due to the lack of intelligence on your end to even comprehend a simple concept of an area of battle.

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  • Are you stupid? I'm saying if everyone had to rely on their rifles at close range then there would be no need for a shotgun in cqc, since it would be fair just who can out shoot or out-react who. -blam!-ing brain dead, writing essays but so dumb at the same time.

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  • Most maps, if not all..are slanted towards up close and personal fighting. Basically every control point, is a CQC fight. Basically every relic, is in a CQC area. You *have* to go indoors. You are not required to go in the wide open areas.

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  • Quite frankly, that is only 1 part of the whole shotgun thing. The other part is that people apparently dont understand that shotguns are made for CQC situations which is why you see them more often. That is just the way it is in any FPS game. Very rarely would you see someone with an LMG or something like that in a CQC situation. Shotguns, SMGs and handguns are the primary choice of weaponry when it comes to CQC. Do people prefer 1 over the other, yes. But that is only because that 1 is more effective in CQC than the others. Even in CQC you have to be careful with shotguns because the range is not always on your side unless you have an extremely closed map on your side, otherwise you are better off using one of the other 2 mentioned. But my opinion is really about how people are really only p*ssed at shotguns because they think they should be able to run around without thinking about what their opponent may be doing. Im all for playing how you want, but people shouldnt be mad about something just because they are being ignorant about it.

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  • I wouldn't mind shotguns so much truthfully if the game itself didn't force everyone to rely on them for every map, well that and their ridiculous range. Even on the big maps, there's more objects obstructing our view. I'd love to see snipers get some love, along with more vehicle maps, but as it is, we are subjected to CQC maps 99% of the time, so we'll always see and no doubt use shotguns. As for people's play styles, I get it that we all have our preferences, but camping corners with shotguns just to stat pad rather than defend or help teammates out is what's giving shotgun players a bad rep. However, that's my opinion on the matter.

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  • Well said. Shotguns require you to get close and personal. If you didn't see me coming then stop camping lol

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