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originally posted in:Shadow Ravens
10/1/2014 7:47:38 AM
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We are not bungie FOOL. We are consumers of their products. And like any customer we expect a good product. What saves Destiny to some extent is the mechanics (gun play is brilliant) and art work which is breathtaking. People like you live in a dream world. Time you chose to swallow the red pill, instead of been hooked on the blue one.
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A company is only as big as it's fan/customer base... We are Bungie...
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How old are you?
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How does age have a relevance here? I'm 20, and I could make a solid guess that you're around 17-19 and think that you're a fully matured adult and believe every last word that comes out of your mouth. But this is just nonsense to you and I won't be making any progress talking to people like you.
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Haha... we are Bungie ? Only an idiot would make that remark your 20 and bloody naïve.
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STFU you ignorant piece of shit. This is business ethics 101. With out consumers, there would be no company. If no one bought McDonalds, how the -blam!- would it stay in business. Same thing applies to every -blam!-ing company/business ever made. Go back to school and learn something you stupid ass hole. It's the idiots like you that will destroy this generation.
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Edited by OneLastRound: 10/2/2014 7:35:13 AMIf Bungie were a publicly traded company and we were shareholders, then I would understand that you idiots are saying "We are Bungie." No, we are not Bungie. We are the consumers. People who go out an buy iPhones don't say "We are apple." People who shop at -blam!-ing Hollister don't say "We are Hollister." We are consumers. It's stupid shit like this that encourage companies to take advantage of consumers. The trend is to call people entitled, when it's people like you idiots who hurt every consumer out there by bending over and taking whatever it is companies give you. "We are Bungie." What a -blam!-ing load of horse shit.
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Jesus Christ, it's in a literal sense. No, we don't developed the game. No, we don't market, pre-plan post-plan or re-plan. But what we say and do has an effect on what Bungie does. So yes, I'd say we are Bungie. Because if they want to sell content and product, they'd listen and make adaptions. Hence the nerfs and buffs coming out... They didn't want the nerfs and buffs, other wise they'd already be the way we won't them. But since WE want that, they are doing it.
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It's in a literal sense? I think you need to look up what "literal" means. Because literally speaking, we are not Bungie. You can be Activision though.. they're a publicly traded company. So literally, you could be Activision or a part of Activision if you wanted to.
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I have a business diploma -blam!-wit..... business ethics 101 ? LMAO. Idiot using the "we" is an advertising tactic suggesting family etc to lure potential customers. Oh I have a Masters in Psychology as well so I know about the mind games that businesses employ to attract customers. I am not your generation either. My generation created this shit, idiot.
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Edited by skegs: 10/2/2014 7:30:54 AMBusiness diploma, or business graduate? Did you go to tech school or something? And yes, if you've taking any classes on business, you'd know what business ethics is. This simple argument is about supply and demand, you can't argue that with out a consumer you can run a business... This is something that can't be argued. And how would you know what generation I'm in? And I'm also majoring in Business. And I've been taking college level business classes through high school. Not to mention I own my own business. You're ignorant to that fact that consumers make a company. You can't make money unless someone is buying your shit... Dumb ass.
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Why are you linking business ethics with supply and demand? Supply and demand is a basic concept covered in Economics. Business ethics is this -- do not lead your consumers on with an E3 demonstration showing this amazing game, then continue leading them on with these dev diaries and vidocs, and then releasing a final product that is nothing like that shit that you essentially advertised.
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Firstly, let me go over basic Business knowledge. Everything is "linked." Supply and demand is not economics. It has something to do with economics, but with out a supply (a business) there can't be a demand. Thus, the start of a supply and demand graph, chart, statistic, or what ever you want to gain knowledge from, is started with a business/company. Now the reason I "linked" supply and demand with business ethics, is because the way you run your business justifies how much demand that business gets. I'll break this down for you, and any other stubborn person out there. You need to run a business efficiently to receive demand, meaning, proper marketing, happy customers, and making sure everything done falls in legal terms of the domestic country. So in this instance, I'm referring to the "happy customers" part. Happy customers come from good, clean, and a well made product. What Bungie released was good, clean, and well made. It has it's faults in certain areas, like every other product on the market. But you can't let things like this spoil the enjoyment for you. Now you mention Bungie making you perceive a game that is not Destiny? We'll let me break the news to you. Bungie doesn't know who you are, so they don't know how your thoughts are processed. So how are they able to make everyone perceive a game the same way before it is launched? They can't. There is going to be people that look at it and go, "well this doesn't spark my interest," "this game looks pretty good," "I'm definitely buying this game, it looks fun," and "OMG this game looks bananas! PLOX." And when the game is launched, either you feel the same way when you finally endure the final product, or they change because you ended up not liking it. Or you thought it would suck and you find out you do like it. So your attacks aren't valid, the points you make are weak, and you seem to not understand what you're talking about. You've danced around the original topic. Instead of pointing out why you think "we are not Bungie," you ramble on about the things that I was saying are wrong. Which isn't how you win arguments. So pick I fight you can win next time. I'm tired of waisting my breath with people like you. Because I know you'll comment back about something else I said that is easy to pick at.
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Bloody American should have known. My criticism Einstein, of the original post, was Mr Hollywood's claim that we are all Bungie. We are not. We are consumers of a Bungie product, DESTINY!
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WHAT IS A COMPANY WITHOUT CONSUMERS??????????
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Just stop. You sound like a fool.
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...but that doesn't mean that we are Bungie. Just because I own an iPhone doesn't make me Apple. Having the ability to indirectly or even directly influence a company's decisions does not make you that company. Look, we get what you're trying to say. But it's wrong and it's stupid. There's a clear line between a business and its consumers. We are the consumers. That crap you're spouting is PR bs. "What are we without you? You guys make us who we are." You're basically working for Bungie for free.
