[quote]Secondly, I actually can't believe how much people are complaining about things like the loot system and the fact that farming for gear is a requirement.[/quote] No, they are complaining because the system is actually broken and the game doesn't promote replayability oh and lets not forget how bland the game is. [quote]Raids are hard, they shouldn't guarantee loot and expecting things to be handed to you[/quote] >Implying the raid is hard, is just long and dull. [quote]in a MMORPG style of game (which this is, even though it's an FPS) is just naive.[/quote] >Destiny is considered an MMO >Holds up to 16 players max Lol [quote]Thirdly, yes, the story is a bit short and lacking at the moment but if you pay attention and actually follow the story that currently exists, [/quote] You mean the crapfest the boring, undeveloped characters talk about? [quote]you can see it as a piece of a much larger puzzle that will eventually come together[/quote] Too bad most of the lore is on lolgrimoire and not in-game. [quote]Patience is a virtue etc etc.[/quote] And money for dlc packs too. [quote]If you are giving up on a game this quickly then I doubt you had any intentions of playing it seriously anyway.[/quote] Or Bungie decided to cut content and made an overhyped cash grab, lets not forget the giant amount of repetitiveness, the horrible loot system, crucible is ok but the weapons are unbalanced, the story is atrocious and the characters aren't even interesting, the exploration is bland and the enemy AI is poorly scripted. [quote]And lastly, polluting a community with hatred and negativity does nothing to help improve a game or expedite content releases.[/quote] It's called feedback, plus Bungie isn't helping the game with their hotfixes. [quote]Bungie are fixing the game, slowly working towards creating the community driven game[/quote] Except it doesn't work as a community game at all. [quote] it seems they wanted to create from the get go, it's not like creating something on this scale is easy or anything.[/quote] They had so much content to use but they decided to cut it and put it as dlc. [quote]Enjoy your time in the game, enjoy the community that is supporting it and try to understand the game from a development perspective, you might just gain some appreciation for the effort involved.[/quote] This community has already been ruined and we understand how game development works, is the fact that a developer straight-up lie in our face and sell us an unfinished game but hey that's what Bungie gets for partnering with Activision.

Good post, I agree. May we all strive to speak of issues as maturely as you do. Have a good day

Actually it's a community game moron and Mesa , works hard to help people out , I can't stand all you people that hate on someone for no reason , I'm friends with Mesa and if you guys knew him you would be ashamed of yourselves he is not some cocky egotistical video gamer he relates to the average gamer

Look up MMO. This isn't one.

[quote]Fine post sir. I second your motion. good day.[/quote] I agree. Good post sir have a good day

[quote]Firstly, Bungie, the community is right, this type of post does not seem like it should be part of the news section, it seems like it would be prudent to make a separate area for things like this as it is still useful information that I'm sure many people will utilize. Secondly, I actually can't believe how much people are complaining about things like the loot system and the fact that farming for gear is a requirement. Raids are hard, they shouldn't guarantee loot and expecting things to be handed to you in a MMORPG style of game (which this is, even though it's an FPS) is just naive. Thirdly, yes, the story is a bit short and lacking at the moment but if you pay attention and actually follow the story that currently exists, you can see it as a piece of a much larger puzzle that will eventually come together. Patience is a virtue etc etc. If you are giving up on a game this quickly then I doubt you had any intentions of playing it seriously anyway. And lastly, polluting a community with hatred and negativity does nothing to help improve a game or expedite content releases. Bungie are fixing the game, slowly working towards creating the community driven game it seems they wanted to create from the get go, it's not like creating something on this scale is easy or anything. Enjoy your time in the game, enjoy the community that is supporting it and try to understand the game from a development perspective, you might just gain some appreciation for the effort involved.[/quote] Agreed. This isnt the place to promote some whoever dropping youtube videos about things in the game that everyone should already know in the base case of playing the game. If youve been playing the game up till now while doing 0 research on anything, well...now you know why you havent been doing well. The informations been around since the game released...and its not very hard to learn things on your own..but o yea, i forgot...most dont seem to want to think for themselves. The Cattle want to be hearded..

[quote]Bosses drop loot plain and simple. That is why there is a weekly lockout for the content. In all RPG bosses drop loot. It doesn't mean you get it. But shaders ? BUNGIE locked me out for shaders? Bilbo left on his journey. And after the first mini boss "trolls" he got an elvish sword that glows when orcs are around. Then after the second mini boss "gollum" he got the ring of power. Then after defeating smaug he got rich. The loot system sucks. Plain and simple. If I am going to get shaders then remove the lock out. If you are keeping the lockout. Remove the shaders. I'm actually cool with the materials. As long as I get 6 or 8 of the same one. You keep explaining away the games issues by comparing it to other games. Like WoW. Every boss in WoW drops loot. Not everyone raiding gets a piece but it's dropped. My buddies did a vault run where all 6 of em got shaders. That's not ok.[/quote] You certainly do sound like you have prior mmo experience, and tho I have been trying to somewhat defend this game, I cant say that I dont have some issues with certain aspects of the game, such as the loot system in some regards, however the placement of such items in the raid, like the Chatterwhite shader, the Legendary ship, and even possibly an emblem, are there for reasons beyond what the adverage player sees. Ive completed the raid every week now minus its first release week. On our first run, most of us got chatterwhite, a few didnt, and the players who didnt get it were sad. They wanted the shader, over a piece of gear. Not everyone wants just gear, some really want the astetic appearance and to be easily visibly seen as someone who beat the raid. Not saying your wrong, but im just trying to show how it is a sought after item by atleast a select few. I also have not seen any repeat loot fall for anyone, not saying it cant happen, but I myself am only missing a select few pieces of equipment and weaponry from this raid. Was I lucky? Yes, i cant deny that luck has played some sort of part in my raid winnings, but with no sense of randomness, a player will be equipped to the point of not even needing or wanting to play the game. Mmorpg's truly are not meant to be played fast. Its supposed to take MONTHS to get to endgame content, nevermind being fully equipped WITH endgame content. But what more can 1 person do, when so many people are just straight up angry, because they didnt know what they were buying into? Im sorry this game isnt what you all expected it was going to be, but the foundation here for Destiny is absolutely AMAZING and I have 0 doubts about the future of this game. Bring on Crota! Bring on the Freedom of Freehold! Down with the Fallen gods and even their Queen Faction! Im excited and rdy for what your bringing to the table Bungie. Began running Vault Hardmode.

I agree my fiend has all purple from standing in front of the loot cave fore days. Level 28. But doesn't know that you match up gun color type with shield type she thought she just needed better guns. Most of these hardcore shooter and gamers want to be herded. It's the journey not the destination. I loved this game since day one and I don't think they should have changed to loot system it makes the game shorter. I enjoy finding out that the strange coin guy moves around and has new item each week and the store base is all there for a epic journey. I kinda see it as some people watch movies and love it for two hours and other read the book and come back with something special after 10 or more hours[quote][/quote]. This game is the book. Not dumb dumb herd.

I'll fight a boss however I want, it's called using the terrain and what you have been given wisely, and you can't blame people for getting upset when you take something away from them just because it no longer benefits you. I actually find it funny that bungie felt the need to add that Captain and Vandal at the back of the map when you fight the Fallen Walker in Devil's Lair. I'm a Hunter so I'm not about to run around and punch everything, that's a Titan's job, I'm going to stay as far back as possible and try to deal as much damage as possible with precise shots. BECAUSE I'M A HUNTER!

[quote][quote]I will read those cards. I don't think the vex is the darkness just a slave race to something more evil.[/quote] The description of the Vex, by your ghost, is a cingular conciousness controlling hundreds of thousands of machines that have always existed thru space and time. Futuristic robots governed by one entity that control the fabric of time. Which is why Atheon is what he is. The Lord of Time[/quote] I have to say I may still think there is more to the darkness. For reading more into these cards there has to be something bigger more powerful out there that made them or uses them. Try reading card sol divisive. It speaks of them worshipping something unknown.

Never mind then. They are evil and cool

And more things will come out as they drop dlcs

Have u read the grimmore cards? They actually have things that help fill in the story

[quote]The difference here is that Destiny barely has a story past "go here, drop dinklebot off, kill waves of enemies because their evil and stuff." Hell most of the cutscenes are characters that we know nothing about telling us that "I could tell you" or " I can't explain why I can't explain." And regardless of this "ten year plan" you know that any story released post launch will be locked behind a paywall because they know people will pay for it.[/quote New consoles. games always go up this is just a sneaky way of doing it.