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Edited by Eirikur: 10/18/2014 1:59:15 PM
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Proof that Bungie cut content

So, information about cut content have been leaked and users on Neogaf have posted this. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=903125 Apperently a persons game glitched and allowed him to see all the content as locked, including the content we're not "allowed" to see yet. Like the DLC missions, Strikes and Raids. I quote: [quote]The first DLC will include 4-5 missions, 2 strikes(one on earth, one on Mars), 1 raid(on Moon) and 3 crucible maps. Second DLC there is less details but I assume again 4-5 missions, 2 strikes, and 1 raid(which takes place in the reef)[/quote] Where all of this is on disc but have to be unlocked by buying the Season Pass/DLC. So, there you have your proof. Bungie have cut content from the game and locked it for us to make us buy their Season Pass. In my opinion that is a very cheap move. Opinions/Further discussions? Please bump this thread as much as you can to spread the truth. Edit: Further proof that most of the DLC is already on Disc. (From Neogaf) [quote]Originally Posted by HykCraft Sorry if this was already posted... but here you go: Expansion II is only 9.5 MB https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07[/quote] Link is working again Picture of it if it would go down again: http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png Edit2: KICHZY posted a interesting video: [quote]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PBunIaaPsM[/quote] Edit3: To the people defending this. How are you okay with this kind of stuff? Content being on the disc that you [b]bought[/b] but can't use because they will sell it to you [i]again[/i] in the Expansion Pass. This content should/already is in the game but is locked. Edit4: People saying we're jumping to conclusions, that these areas are not even close to being finished and all that. Thing is. Since the areas are already there(some with enemies) they could have easily have included them in the game. These areas were already in as far back as the alpha. Which means they had plenty of time to actually finish it all. (If they aren't already finished and Bungie are just waiting to release the rest of it to the people with the expansion pass) These missions and areas should/could have been in the final game but were most likely cut to be sold later as DLC. The areas already in the game proves this by showing us areas that are locked where they probably later only will unlock the missions for those areas. As stated in Edit1 "Expansion II is only 9.5 MB" which most likely is just a "key" to unlock the on disc "DLC". Looking at the lack of content Destiny have right now it could have used this content on release instead. Edit5: Seeing that this thread now have about 380 replies(and still going) where the majority are either upset or angry at Bungie for doing this thing, maybe Bungie should address this in an official blog post and update us on how it actually is. Is this DLC content on disc which needs a bought "key" aka expansion pass or will this later be released for free like the Iron banner and Queen's Wrath events? Bungie, take a look at your fanbase/community, more than half of them are disappointed in the way you're doing business with Destiny. Edit6: A reddit post going over everything that changed with Destiny over the last year: http://www.reddit.com/r/DestinyTheGame/comments/2hqmkb/how_destinys_content_completely_changed_over_the Same post but on Bungie.net: http://www.bungie.net/en/Forum/Post/70822032/0/0 It goes through everything that was in the game before release but later on got taken out for DLC or removed completely. Edit7: The Xbox Expansion Pass link is up again: https://store.xbox.com/en-us/Xbox-One/Dlc/Destiny-Expansion-II-House-of-Wolves/2af987e3-ba25-4d1b-82cb-1fbe02e2ea07 9.5MB I have a picture too: http://i.imgur.com/mOMpeif.png Edit8: lavaman2302 posted a link to the ps store showing us the same explansion. [quote]Also check this out https://store.sonyentertainmentnetwork.com/#!/en-us/games/addons/destiny-expansion-i-the-dark-below/cid=UP0002-BLUS31181_00-DESTINYEXPNPACK1?emcid=ps-ga-872&utm_medium=Paid_Search_{ps}&utm_campaign=Games&utm_source=Google&utm_term=ps-ga-872&utm_content=Brand[/quote] Pictures of it: http://i.imgur.com/OrfdFdA.png http://i.imgur.com/MmbxruY.png It says 6.9 MB on there. Also a very small download. Most likely a "key". They promise us "New Story and Cooperative Areas to explore" but we all know those areas aren't actually new lol Plenty of people have already been in them. Edit9: Quote from Neogaf worth reading: [quote][quote]I highly doubt the devs just cut complete shit out to sell later.[/quote] And that's probably what they want you to think. You'd be surprised what kind of crap they'd spin. Cutting content out of a game and then randomly blasting it into the market in pieces as DLC is profitable, so they'll do it. It's easy for them. We have no evidence to suggest they aren't doing this. I'm much more inclined to say this is exactly what they're doing based on what we're seeing. Thank god I didn't buy into this game. Pulled out last year when i realised what they were saying and what they were showing just didn't match. The $500m gave me a good laugh though. What a waste. But hats down to Activision, it all worked perfectly. Expect other companies to follow this trend. The future is bright![/quote] Edit10: wazzanut wrote a reply worth reading: [quote]Its like paying to get into Disneyland and then being told you have to pay extra to ride the best rides. People who dont complain about this place less value in money and self respect. I like the idea of releasing content over time to help keep things fresh but theres hardly a main body to this game, it feels like an empty introduction to an empty world. Its like halo leftovers and its starting to smell funny... Repeating missions over and over should be proof enough to the lack of content, its been a while since i felt a little screwed over by a game.[/quote] Edit11: Another area have been found, now by Nowise10: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xtf3NlYhB_U As you can see it is everything is done in this one as well. All Bungie have to do is release the mission files and that's the DLC for ya. Note that Nowise10 states that this is the 2015 DLC mission. I mean, a 2015 DLC that already exist in the game. That is pure cheapness. Edit12: So, the area Nowise10 found a way into have been in the game for quite some time. This is a screenshot from a trailer released on E3 this year in June. http://i.imgur.com/4zFs3HH.png Would you look at that? http://youtu.be/hRRKtkuOeig?t=1m32s So this area have been in there since atleast E3... Edit13: Another finished looking DLC area on disc have been found: http://teambeyond.net/destiny-dlc-area-uncovered-mars/ http://youtu.be/fY_KKYQG22c Now a strike in the Black Garden area. As you can see it is a big area where you can't go because of this big energy wall, but with a sparrow you can go through it and enter the DLC area. Edit14: Another DLC area found by Corbman. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgoPfuphQvw This is the Traitor's Ketch mission in the 2015 DLC. Is you can see, everything is working as it should, it just needs enemies. Edit15: Once again, a new DLC area found by Corbman. http://youtu.be/BtFey3eEzfk This is the area for the raid on the moon. Confirming that this also is on disc and only needs enemies to be added. I know no one cares anymore so I will probably stop updating this now. Since, I don't really care anymore myself. I've given up on Destiny and will move on to better games.

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  • What would you expect from a developer sided with Activision?

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  • Would you rather have a monthly fee or DLC?

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    • Edited by LordOfPit: 9/29/2014 2:33:39 PM
      Get used to it. Why else do you think all these companies are pushing for Cloud storage and no-disc all digital sales? This is the future and there's no stopping it. Wag your finger at them, complain and tell on them to the BBB all you want but in the end the All-Digital-You-Own-Nothing "revolution" is here to stay! I don't like it... but that doesn't mean I'll starve myself from future titles and most likely despite all the complaints, neither will many of you. If we wanted to stop this, we should've said no to Steam when it came out because that was the beginning of the end.

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    • A lot of that stuff is going to be released later on as a special event. For example: the Reef missions will be kinda like that queen's wrath event going on now but will be actually a mission on the astroid belt.

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    • Fail. -blam!- Bungie.

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    • I feel like it's not bungies fault but activisions. Activision is known for overpriced dlc and making it a big deal to add to their games. Bungie however has not. Maybe bungie didn't have a choice in the matter like bioware with ea. I'm not defending bungie, I am just simply offering a different view point. [spoiler]wonder how many people will read the whole thing[/spoiler]

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      • And? Welcome to the world of big gaming money and their publishing partners. Get off our forums and go complain to bungie directly. There is nothing you can say that other haters haven't already said.

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      • This makes me want to cry. :(

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      • Activison probably made them do this

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      • Disc locked content has been a very common practice, level 5 did it with the white knight chronicles games. Luckily that community wasnt a bunch of people who'd complain so much about it.

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      • Edited by finalvincent21: 9/28/2014 9:58:24 PM
        My guess is this is more Activisions call than bungies

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        • That's crazy, all of that looks like a complete game & would have been worth the $60 I payed.

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        • Edited by Fenrir VI: 9/28/2014 10:08:05 PM
          I highly doubt thats all the content we are going to get in the expansions...things like new planets, gear, subclasses, ect ect wouldnt show up in somthing like that. Plus having placeholder icons and fully textured blocked off areas isnt new to games, WoW (which alot of people like to compare to this game for some reason) did the same thing that people could glitch into places like Mt. Hyjal in vanilla, long before it was a raid. Just because its in the game doesnt mean it was removed to be re-released as paid content, and honestly Id rather them put in fully textured areas that work and arent glitched and that all they have to do is add mobs to complete it over them dropping a massive patch that adds all the content in a gltichy and buggy state.

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        • I dont like the fact that it is happening, am I surprised no not at all, do I expect better yes but then again look how the world is turning these days. The only problem is that I will buy simply because I do enjoy what we did get even though we clearly got hosed from the beginning.

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        • Your logic is pathetic.

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        • Illuminati

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        • No different than any other game these days. Nothing to see here. Move along.

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          • Bump

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          • How do you know this content is on disc? Have you been able to get to it offline? Or view the map info in the disc and know it's there? Is it possible they've preloaded some of the areas on their servers or on the downloads to streamline the release, do some testing, or who knows?

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            • 'Sigh' The amount of people who don't understand how updating games and DLC content works is astonishing

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              • Don't these type of games role out updates little by little to be safe? Sure, some of the areas are accesible but none of the new strike nor raid areas are accesible which means it isn't all disk locked content.

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                • Games and Movies cut shit all the time, putting it in DLCs or extended edition. Because, of time. When you go to a movie, you're not seeing the full film. You're only seeing half or a 3rd of it, till you buy the movie at stores. Games, are no different.

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                  • 12 new story missions an 2 raids sounds awesome count me in!

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                  • I'm not surprised by this news. DLC these days is just cut content or disc locked content. I got my limited edition for $86 and earned $18 back in rewards thanks to great Best Buy deals. I understand why people would be pissed though. If you paid full retail for limited edition or buying the expansion pass at $35 then you are certainly being ripped off by Bungie.

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                  • Duh, just like every other DLC for every other game that comes out within the year of its release. People and their first world problems.

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                    • Cause COD hasn't been doin this for 10 years.

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