[quote]PvPvE. (for some that might not get it for some reason, Player versus Player versus Environment) Make it a simple deathmatch, or add vehicles, I don't care. Look at it as Big Team Battle from Halo if you were to compare it. Make the map each individual area of the planets or moon, sure set some boundaries. However, throw in some events where a random group of Fallen, Vex, Cabal or Hive come into play and it turns the pvp training into a kill the enemies match, each enemy killed, based on their threat level gives said team a point(s) on who got the final killshot or damage percentage. Drop down a devilwalker sure. Or throw in a randomly generated boss and turn it into a short term horde then resume pvp functionality (pvp combat would turn off while the enemies invade). It would combine a large set of matchtypes while being somewhat unique to the genre, at least a refresher.[/quote] Check out my post horde mode / survival It has gain a lot popularity and comes with examples and set up please give us your opinion and Ideas. two posts of it has almost 400 comments combined but we need the views of gamers of all walks of life. Thanks fellow guardians your pal mofo