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9/28/2014 1:13:03 AM
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To all saying there is no story.

It has been right here in front of us all along. Learn to read. Ladies, gentleman, boys and girls of all ages. Please just take a step back and get ready for a long winded ride down the story Bungie hid in plain sight to us all. At 3:30am last night my team mate and I had an epiphany while listening to Xur. And this needs to be spread to all the Internet to hear. (Please note I will be editing this post a ton this combines almost all the important grimoire and weapon items and is 90% based on accuracy of things in game) (Skip past 3rd paragraph if you just want to know the story) From the very beginning take a deep breath here we go. In the Souls game you are a chosen undead selected to end the time loop that has been going on and on into infinity. If you aren't familiar with Dark Souls I urge you to read up on it right here pause and go... Right most of you didn't so I'll explain. Basically every player is "chosen" to fulfill this prophesy of ushering in the age of darkness and yet the only way to accomplish it is by going about the game in a bizarrely weird pattern because you have been DECEIVED (note this is very important) but one day one undead goes against the prophesy, alternate ending ensues. So anyways Bungie has pulled from Dark Souls in many ways not just in the form of hidden story telling (it took players over a year to get this) but also in the actual plot line itself. The people with the Vex theory were partly correct. Here we go, cut scene one. A mysterious ghosts wakes you up and tells you that you've been dead a very long time, you are going to see many things you don't understand. Oh how appropriate this was, what the ghost should have said is you will understand nothing. Cutscenes 2 a stranger is watching as you escape on your ship, she goes on to monitor you and make sure you arrive on the moon to go down and battle the hive discovering the Shrine of Oryx (GRIMOIRE INSERT). If you didn't catch it the Exo stranger sent that ghost specially to you. Moving right along we are whisked off to Venus to interpret what is going on here and dig up an old extremely important archive known as the Ishtar collective. (GRIMOIRE INSERT) now please know the Ishtar collective were warlocks before the collapse that discovered that we had already been defeated by the Vex. At this point things are going to be very complicated to explain. The awoken queen (GRIMOIRE), the vanguard, and the speaker all know the truth behind the game. And here it is. You are trapped inside a transdimensional simulation (GRIMOIRE). The real earth was right there in front of us all along. Hovering above the speaker. The Exo stranger must be an extension of the traveler that is acting in the world (EXO STRANGER GRIMOIRE). However the traveler itself is indeed the AI warmind Rasputin. Humanity no longer exists. Period. Mankind has been obliterated. Xur is from the "outer world" which he quotes so much. One of his most important lines is "where I come from there are no birds only shadows". And "your traveler has a dark shadow". This probably would be another war mind who doesn't like its creators. (Speculation what really is the darkness) The reason in the world of Destiny mankind designed the warminds AND the Exo (EXO GRIMOIRE) must be that we attempted to save ourselves. From what you may ask? The answer is ourselves and it is found in the (GOLDEN AGE GRIMOIRE) in this simplistic conversation so much is revealed. Now Bungie pulled a page from the bible here and Revelations about "A great time before the end of the world where people knew many things but in the end the only answer was God" (paraphrase). Somehow we destroyed ourselves and brought about the darkness. This is where things become EVEN MORE complicated if you are following still. So one can hypothesize in the Destiny time line of things we had to have been extinct a VERY long time 1 million years+. This actually explains why the worlds are so empty because the war mind was built post collapse which would lead to it not knowing what life was like during the "golden age" of technology. So we've been extinct for a million years and the super computer warminds we built are all lonely. Well one decides he wants to know what his creators were like after all you've had an infinite amount of time to think. (TRAVELER GRIMOIRE) Fast forward when something has had an infinite amount of time to think it discovers many things. I believe the war mind Rasputin decided to "travel" in the vessel of the traveler. Now this is where your head explodes. Backwards in time to save humanity.. But there is a catch, he is a warmind and with him COMES WAR. Causing the whole cycle to repeat again. Golden age, humanity collapses, darkness ensues. Warmind "travels" again. Somehow we have been stuck in an infinitum loop. There is a catch though. He thinks he has answer this time (GRIMOIRE). The Ghosts. Because Rasputin does not understand the nature of his creators he decides he must break himself apart and resurrect them with the power he learned about in.. Wait for it THE BLACK GARDEN (GRIMOIRE MYSTERY) For whatever reason God pities this warmind and decided to give him the answers he seeks on how to save humanity using the power of the light. But where there is light there is darkness. Another religious theme of we are God and God is us. Now underlining all of this is the fact that inside the tower you can go and look at our solar system. 6 times around the speaker. With the SEVENTH (Bungie number) being our real earth, constantly being scanned and explored to understand how we could save it. I believe the Exo must be the only things left in our original realm and are quite possibly monitoring all of this as we are at war with the Vex time loop (conspiracy) the leader of the darkness (unknown as of now probably another warmind). The leader of the light (The Traveler). And then one more, as the speaker puts it, "not dark not light but something else". There will be no other answer but God. Tldr and summary: Destiny is a transdimensional simulation. You the guardians have to be an end to the loop. Leaders of the tower know the truth that humanity is extinct. The traveler is actually a Warmind we built who thought for so long he learned the secrets to the universe. Went back in time trying to save us and know it's creator and origins. Mankind triggered the darkness during the golden age. Rasputin deeply regrets this. The other 8 war-minds are either against humanity or inactive. Edit- This is the sad truth people. Bungie has tried a type of story telling that doesn't work for a community of shoot Em up FPS players. If you don't want to read your grimoire, weapons, and armor then you will always feel Destiny's story is empty which it is not. Help spread the world. Light be with you all

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  • I'd be somewhat with you if the grimoire was in the game but it's not. Therefore while Destiny as a world has a great framework, Destiny the game doesn't actually showcase any of that. Additionally I'd argue you can't attempt to tell a non-traditional story (like Dark Souls) but still use traditional methods of exposition to relay that story in the game (like Destiny). Dark Souls leaves you shrouded in mystery, forcing the player to decipher its narrative. Destiny doesn't. It introduces you to characters and gives you constant exposition but none of it ties together very well. Instead we're left with quotes like, "I don't even have time to explain why I don't have time to explain." And unfortunately that quote seems to comprehensively sew up Bungie's approach yo the narrative here.

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    • How did my dead body end up in the middle of a field in Russia? Seriously. I've been asking myself that since the First Look Alpha.

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      • I prefer the story where the traveler is the darkness

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      • You lost me at Rasputin is the traveler.

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      • what would be great is if you find a dead ghost it will take you to a bungie app on the console and let you read it, for anyone that plays the master chief collection it would be like the terminal system

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      • That is some next level $#!T..... Well I'm going to puzzle over this for a few days now.....

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      • Edited by Cussin: 1/5/2015 2:38:27 AM
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        • Seeing as the grimoire isn't in the game, the game lacks story content. It's as simple as that. It's like seeing a movie with no story and defending it by saying "Well, there is a website that has the story." It's bullshit.

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          • Edited by DnVrDt: 9/30/2014 5:56:04 PM
            Oh please don't justify them if they wanted to tell the story from the cards it is ok but they actually would have put this in the game to make them easy accessible and understandable. Are you fkng kidding me? To read the story of a game I paid I have to go on a web site ? This sounds to me like they had to hurry up to meet deadlines and then come out with this shitty sistem. So at the end I can understand the new way and all shit but they should have to do things properly not so arranged (Sorry for bad English I'm Italian)

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          • Only a -blam!-ing idiot would spend time reading grimoire. When I want to game, I game. If I wanted to read a book then I would go read a book.

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            • Seems like a lot of people don't like it. I think it's cool. I feel as though I am the story and the grimoire is the lore around that story. It's new and different and i appreciate that. To each their own.

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              • People complaining about this games story are complaining about the lack of playable story as it is a game not book.

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              • I think just maybe a game's story should probably be, you know, in the game?

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              • Cool. Tell Bungie to put the GAMES STORY in the GAME and I'll accept the Grimoire. As it is I will NEVER read it. Like Chat, VOIP, and several other features it should just be in the game.

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              • Wow I hope that is true and in later instalments in the series we know more about this

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              • Edited by THUNDERCHILD: 9/30/2014 12:05:25 AM
                If you have to leave the game to find out what it's all about then that's a huge failure. There is some evidence to suspect they had a solid game, ripped it's soul out at the last minute for some unknown reason, and replaced its whole essence with these garbage cards to keep their release schedule. The alternative is more sad, that a real story was never there.

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              • Too bad we gotta learn about the story of a game not on the game but an outside source Who the fuk thought of that

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              • Thanks for typing all that up man. Very interesting. If this is the story I can dig it. Kudos +1 P.S The only thread ive seen trying to give a play by play story to all these gamers and all he gets is hate. Bajeebus. Give the guy a like.

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                • Hiding the 'story' in cards that aren't even in game is pathetic.

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                  • Longest.....Thread.....Ever....[spoiler]I couldn't finish it was so boring[/spoiler]

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                    • That was actually pretty interesting

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                    • [i]Honestly, for me, the only game that can get away with the story being mostly implications and item descriptions is Dark Souls. Destiny basically gave me a bunch of flashcards without any real reason to care. It all serves only as justification for repeating tasks and shooting. Which is fine, but not enough to make me see this game as pivotal and innovative.[/i]

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                    • Actually, most of the "in-depth" story was taken out of the full game so it would appeal to the "average" gamer more. There isn't anything hidden at all. They were forced by their contracts with Activsion to do things they did not intend. Some of the major devs left... Sad times...

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                      • Edited by DIBIASSE: 9/29/2014 11:31:38 PM
                        I wish the grimoire cards actually worked in the android app as the layout and navigation is less fussy than the desktop site... Unfortunately in my case the cards almost never display all the info, usually cutting off mid sentence... It's pretty game breaking for me.

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                      • except Dark souls is a better game woth actual content.

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                        • I'm sorry but I can't get into a story that involves me turning off the game and reading some cards. I want to become emotionally attached to characters. I can't do that in this game. I want to be in awe... Instead I read a card and say "Holy Shit why didn't they put that in the game?! Thats amazing!" I'd love to feel attached to the story in this game, but unfortunately 5-6 two minute cutscenes isn't going to achieve that for me. I've seen more story on the side of a cereal box.

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