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9/27/2014 4:12:16 AM
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Hunters are Underpowered (PvP)

Now this ties in with my other post, where I went in depth with over powered weapons. This time, I will be explaining how the Hunter is underpowered. After discussing it with my friends, I have found many disadvantages compared to the other classes. Let's begin, shall we? Now most of us, if not all, know that the stat specialty for Hunters is Agility. Now what benefits does that give us? Increased running speed and jump height. How does that help us in combat? Either running towards enemies for melee attacks, running towards them with a shotgun, or running the -blam!- away. That sounds great, but is it really? Not when you compare it to the other classes. Titans get armor, increasing health. Warlocks get recovery, which increases how fast your health recovers. Alongside that, Hunters would be considered more melee based than the other two classes, especially with Bladedancer. But are they really better than the other two? Hell no. The Sunsinger subclass gets an ability which allows them to get a damage shield from dealing damage with melee. Melee takes two hits to kill someone in PvP, unless you're fighting a Sunsinger. If the Sunsinger melees you, it takes three hits, but in that time, they can land two on you and kill you. Not so great. Of course there is the drawback of the cooldown, but you only need to get one melee kill, and move onto the next. The Striker subclass gets an ability (optional) which instantly kills you if they are sprinting towards you and they melee. This seems to have no cooldown (as referenced from a Striker), meaning the only drawback is having to sprint. The only problem with that is if there is a group around the people you want to kill. But seriously, how often do you see that unless it's Control? Not very often (or not in my experience anyways [I never see any team players]). This also isn't so great. Now let's go on to Hunters. The only good thing Hunters get are throwing knives, which take skill to use (unless you're close range). Once you're good enough with them, you can use Knife Juggler to reset its cooldown, that is if you can get good enough with it. Blink Strike is decent, but it still isn't as long range as a Warlock's. You can use Backstab, but who would choose Backstab over Fast Twitch (I mean come on, five second cooldown!)? Even so, Backstab only works on the enemy's back, which means you have to get behind them, which means you will also appear on the radar unless you cloak and run up behind them. That could work, unless you get spotted by another enemy (it doesn't make you completely invisible), then you can kiss your rear good bye because you're focusing one guy, while another guy will shoot you. It also isn't a good idea when they have a shotgun, because you'll most likely die. Now, on to stat specs. Titans spec for armor, Warlocks spec for recovery, and Hunters spec for agility. If a Hunter fully specs in agility, what combat bonuses will that give him? Well increased jump height really isn't a good idea for fighting because it leaves you in the air longer, and running faster will get you closer to an enemy to either melee or use a shotgun, but there's a downside to that. It leaves you having almost no armor or recovery, or both. That means if you rush towards someone, they will most likely kill you before you even get close to them. This is kind of the same with PvE. Agility just isn't as useful as Armor and Recovery inside of combat. It's only use is outside of combat. This means that the only way a Hunter can really come out with anything good is by trying his/her best to go with Armor and Recovery as much as he/she can. Even then it isn't as much as a Titan or Warlock. This leaves the Hunter with one option in terms of combat: long-range fighting. This also leaves a hole in your defenses since you will need to use either a scout rifle with a good scope, or a sniper rifle. Unless you have the Third Eye perk, or the Knucklehead Radar (which only works for primaries), you're out of the job. Now can Hunters still do good in Crucible if they dodge a lot? Kind of, yes. But not as much as Warlocks and Titans with their overwhelming power and defenses. Now another thing is the damage resistance with Bladedancer's Arc Blade. They say we get damage resistance, yet we can still be one-shotted by Shoulder Charge, the other classes supers, a shotgun to the face, a headshot from a sniper rifle, and a rocket launcher. The only "resistance" we're really getting is from small-arms weaponry such as assault rifles, scout rifles and hand cannons. Then there's also the few seconds long animation time which leaves us open. We won't survive long. Now you may begin posting rage comments like I know a lot of you will do. Constructive criticism is more appreciated than mindless ranting, though.

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  • Saying hunters are underpowered means you're just noob, I'm a defender titan and sunsingers kill my shield in 2-3 super shots then the last shot one hit KO's me One hunter OHK me and2 other guys when we were defending a node One blade dancer ran into my shield of dawn and melee killed both me and my team mate You're just shit, go YouTube and learn to play and don't bitch about your class, reroll a different class if you think hunters are bad instead of crying about it expecting the game to change

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  • Edited by sims3k: 9/29/2014 5:06:13 AM
    .. [url=http://destinytracker.com/destiny/leaderboards/all/wl?grouped=false&page=1]Win/Loss stats for both PSN and XBL[/url] 7 of the top 10 are hunters [url=http://destinytracker.com/destiny/leaderboards/all/kd?grouped=false&page=1]Kill/Death stats for both PSN and XBL[/url] 6 of the top 10 are hunters [url=http://destinytracker.com/destiny/leaderboards/all/scorepga?grouped=false&page=1]Scor per game average[/url] 6 of the top 10 are hunters Theres the proof, wheres yours?

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    • It takes 3 shotgun blasts point blank to kill a blade dancer, I never have time to even 2 off. Its op, get over it.

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      • People will continuously ask for a hunter nerf until it happens. I was on board at first, but eventually I just stopped caring about crucible altogether. I firmly believe bladedancer will get some balancing

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        • Throwing knife needs a buff for sure. It should be a oneshot like Titan's shoulder charge. It takes skill to use, unlike the Titan. I also think they should eliminate cast animations for both supers and allow us to attack immediately. There are so many times that a golden gun shot or arc blade could have saved my life, if only I could instacast and attack right away. Titan's super is instant and cannot be stopped. Hunters can die during our super and have to build it from scratch afterwards.

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          • I dont even have to read your post to call you a dumbass, hunters are easily the most overpowered classes in the game. Stats were just released recently about the most popular subclasses in Destiny, both gunslinger and bladedancer were in the lead by a longshot. If they were not OP, why would everyone use them?

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            • Edited by Bluenessless: 9/29/2014 2:26:14 AM
              If you think hunters are underpowered then you are just bad at playing a hunter. They easily outclass the others in majority of situations.

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            • You're a massive chump. Bladedancer and gunslinger are both OP and filled with 9 year olds.

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              • I think Arc Blade needs a buff! - No one ever

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              • Im sorry just to dime in here i didnt even read your retarted statement i stopped when you compared the classes cause for all your derps and man i hate to be pg about it but i do due to the site but the point of a game such as this one with classes and roles their suppose to be differences no matter what no one class in specific is OP or UP wtf up is haha its all about skill and skill no matter what so i wanted to educate you and probably most of you that dont know what the hell is going on in this game my major advice to you and most of you is just please learn to play haha thank you and enjoy.

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              • Nah

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              • I also have to say that the titan needs a buff. I expect to kill everyone on the map six times over when I use my super! Then it would be called Fist of "Havoc".

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              • No.

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                They should more pvp gamemodes, including a halo style " infection " gametype where there is 1 bladedancer, and their dash is on a short cooldown and they have slightly faster than base agility. Then there are 9 or so blade dancer haters, i mean titans, who get auto rifles and shotguns. And also more gametypes like griffball and ctf and all that bungie stuff

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              • You guys think bladedancer just gets massive damage buff but it doesn't. The majority of times they seem to take a lot of damage they are using the hungering blade perk which allows them to regenerate health from kills. I think its balanced the way it is... arc blade should be good because everything else about it sucks

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              • I would read this but...... [spoiler]it's so freaking long [/spoiler] i have a lvl 27 hunter and it's very hard to take out more them 3 I have wiped a team of 6 people but they did not see me come in its really about who is using the character

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              • Dude if you think hunters are underpowered try out the Titan class. You will be amazed

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              • Honestly all the classes are equal. It's more about your playing style. I'm a titan because i'm no good at the other classes. I am proud to go around punching stuff and not dying. I tried to make a warlock and died all the time because I try to melee everything but I can't. Bottom line stick to what suits you because it's not the class, it's you.

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              • If arc blade gets a buff it's only fair radiance gets a buff. Almost every downside you mentioned about arcblade applies to radiance.

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              • Even though they are underpowered everyone seems to play with them -blam!-ing annoying in team deathmatch when 5/6 of enemy team is huntards! -blam!-ing stealth and shock waves everywhere!

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              • Glad someone else sees that hunters need a buff.

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              • Have you ever played skirmish as a blade dancer? You almost certainly wipe the opponents team every super you use since in skirmish they tend to stick together. Also because hunters move so fast and are next to unkillable while arcblading killing 3+ in a row is a lot easier than with the nova bomb.

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              • Hunters have blink. What more can you ask for?

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                • Honestly I know people say hunters are pvp beasts but honestly if you hit us we won't recover for a while be cause we have the worst recovery of all the classes

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                • I'm currently working on my Hunter right now, and it is not underpowered. That is a ridiculous statement to make about a class' super which you can sit, wait, pick and choose who you kill with rather than formulate the perfect time to use your super like with the Titan or Warlock's abilities.

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                  • New Clan for do missions in PS3. https://www.bungie.net/es/Clan/Detail/412436 join now in Metal Command!

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