I didn't want to lose this further down in the thread, sorry for the repost. I thought I should add to my reply as it was fairly snide in retrospect. I appreciate all the likes and counter-arguments, and I got a good laugh out of all the childish name calling. I didn't expect the game to be everything to everyone, but there are fundamental things we've grown accustomed to over the last 5 years that we expect in games today. That's what really grinds my gears. In game friends lists and chat just seems like such an obvious requirement to me. There feels like a massive disconnect between what was marketed, developed, and what players actually want - and bungie's lack of responsiveness to those asks (dating back to the alpha) just ratchets up the frustration. I wouldn't be this vocal about my perspective of the shortcomings if I didn't feel all that untapped potential just begging to be let out in the game. Everyone just deals with disappointment differently. Some get mad, some make cynical comments, some sugar coat everything and pretend there is nothing wrong, and some can focus on the good to the point where they can forgive the bad. I'd love to be in that last category... but I'm still in 1 or 2. ;) I hope this game follows the same path to redemption that diablo 3 and final fantasy xiv took, and I suspect enough players can live with the shortcomings until then to keep the darkness at bay. I'll just probably be elsewhere until then.